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Bhikkhu1991 Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

Punctuation-commas and so on

0 The following is an extract from 'Things Mr Bean does every Monday morning' that is found in Learn English Online -free beginners course-Unit 3,Lesson 11.02br
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00He gets up at 6.15am, and goes to the bathroom. He usually has a shower, then he has a shave and brushes his teeth. He eats breakfast at about 7.00am. After breakfast he reads the newspaper.02br
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00Hello,02br
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001. Is the extract above punctuated correctly?02br
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002. Why are commas required in the first and second sentences?02br
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003. Why does the last sentence have no comma after 'breakfast'?02br
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00Thank you.02br
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00With best wishes.0-
  

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15 01b 00am and02b 00 goes to the bathroom. He usually has a shower,01b 00 and02b 00 then he has a shave and brushes his teeth. 00am.

  • 15 01b 00am and02b 00 goes to the bathroom.
  • He usually has a shower,01b 00 and02b 00 then he has a shave and brushes his teeth.
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  • Is the extract above punctuated correctly?
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01i00He gets up at 6.15 01b00am and02b00 goes to the bathroom. He usually has a shower,01b00 and02b00 then he has a shave and brushes his teeth. He eats breakfast at about 7.00am. After breakfast01b00,02b00 he reads the newspaper.02i02br
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0 Hello Mister Micawber,02br
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00I appreciate your kind reply. Here, I would like to point out the second sentence that has two independent clauses joined by a conjunctive adverb is required to be separated by a semicolon. Further, a comma is then needed after the conjunctive adverb 'then'. I have recently found out about this information on the Internet, 01a
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Hello Mister Micawber,

I would like to thank you for your comment. Could you elaborate on the awkwardness of my punctuation, please?
Is the matter a rule of grammar rather than a form of awkwardness? Well, I have found 'and then' is a complex subordinator under 'Coherence: Transitions between ideas' in the 'Guide to Grammar and Writing' from the Internet, but your punctuation is in t
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He usually has a shower, and then he has a shave and brushes his teeth.
He usually has a shower; then, he has a shave and brushes his teeth.


This is a mundane description of a daily activity. The semicolon and subsequent comma in the second sentence break the sentence into formal segments that do not reflect the quick, quotidian flow of banal activities. If there were
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Mister Micawber is right. Also, use a semicolon in the first sentence only if you don't change the text. Thus it would be: "He usually has a shower; then he has a shave and brushes his teeth."

~R
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Hello RonBee,

I would like to thank you for your suggestion. However, do you mean that your sentence below is also in informal writing? In formal writing, 'Thus' and 'then' are always followed by commas, am I right?

Thus it would be: "He usually has a shower; then he has a shave and brushes his teeth."


I am sure that the 'then' in the independent clause 'then he has
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Hello Mister Micawber,

I have recently found out the rule of commas in the 'Guide to Grammar and Writing' is contradicting your remark, ' the second requires a comma between independent clauses'.

When a coordinating conjunction connects two independent clauses, it is often (but not always) accompanied by a comma:
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It requires a comma in order to subordinate the second 'and'. My remark is not contradicted by the guidelines you quote (which I heartily agree with). Good punctuation is not as easy to learn as you seem to think, bhikkhu.
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bhikkhu1991Hello RonBee,

I would like to thank you for your suggestion. However, do you mean that your sentence below is also in informal writing? In formal writing, 'Thus' and 'then' are always followed by commas, am I right?

Thus it would be: "He usually has a shower; then he has a shave and brushes his teeth."


I am sure that the 'then' i

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