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Rex Posted 20 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation

Ptolemy

Hello
I wish you all a Merry Christmas.


The following is my question:

Ptolemy XII was Cleopatra’s father. When he died in 51 BCE, Ptolemy XII willed that seventeen-year-old Cleopatra and her twelve-year-old brother, Ptolemy XIII, were to marry and rule Egypt. Cleopatra was a very different ruler than the Ptolemies who came before her. She learned the Egyptian language; the other Ptolemies spoke only Greek. Cleopatra also practiced the religious customs of Egypt, and many of the Egyptians viewed her as a pharaoh. In 48 BCE, Cleopatra’s generals found they could not control her, so they ousted Cleopatra and made her brother the sole monarch of Egypt.
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My question is on the pronunciation of the word ' Ptolemy'. How do you pronounce it? Would you pronounce it as you pronounce the word 'psychology'.


When you pronounce the word ' psychology', the letter ' p ' is mute? I know it is a tall order to tell the pronunciation of words on the Internet.

Your comments please.
  

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You are right. Ptolemy sounds like [ (t l -m )]

  • You are right.
  • Ptolemy sounds like [ (t l -m )]
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You are right.

Ptolemy sounds like [ (tl
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"p" is always silent in initial "pt", "ps", "pf", and "pn".

CJ
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yup perfect analogy to the word psychology..but ur history is slightly off...

Cleopatra wasn't willed the throne of egypt..she bickered with her brother ptolemy XIII....and married her younger brother who is known as Ptolemy XIV...she had Julius Caesar help her oust her brother Ptolemy XIII and became the last pharoah of egypt.....had a son Ptolemy XV...by caesar..and is known as Caesario
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Ptolemy is pronounced Tol- em-y
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The name Ptolemy has a mute P, so it is pronounced Tolemy.

It's my last name so I should know.

Mark Ptolemy
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This word tells another story about phonotactics of the target language. When a greek word is nativized (anglicized), such an word has to follow the phonology of English. The consonant cluster -pt- in the onset is not permitted; so, there are three ways to go about: (a) mute p when -pt- starts the word; (b) split -pt- across syllables; (c) pt is permitted in the coda, move it to the coda of the
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Hi,

All this is true, but let's not forget that the owner of a name traditionally has the final decision on how he wants it to be pronounced. Of course, he may or may not have success in persuading other people.

I have a surname like that, myself.

Here are a few extreme examples from
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ptolomey is read as tolomey silent p I have relatives all over the world who carry surname Ptolomey .people call us tollies related too cleopatra and the astromomer ptolemy

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