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Taka Posted 20 years ago
Grammar
proud
We are proud of him and proud for him.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/communications/news/display_article.php?id=1582
What is the difference between 'proud of' and 'proud for'?
Is 'proud for' grammatically acceptable? None of my dictionaries has it as an entry.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/communications/news/display_article.php?id=1582
What is the difference between 'proud of' and 'proud for'?
Is 'proud for' grammatically acceptable? None of my dictionaries has it as an entry.
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Hi Taka, No, I don't think 'proud for' is acceptable. It's no wonder your dictionaries don't have it, because I don't think it exists in proper English. Vince
- Hi Taka, No, I don't think 'proud for' is acceptable.
- It's no wonder your dictionaries don't have it, because I don't think it exists in proper English.
- Vince
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Hi Taka,
No, I don't think 'proud for' is acceptable. It's no wonder your dictionaries don't have it, because I don't think it exists in proper English.
Vince
No, I don't think 'proud for' is acceptable. It's no wonder your dictionaries don't have it, because I don't think it exists in proper English.
Vince
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VinceI agree. We are proud of (never proud for) him.
Hi Taka,
No, I don't think 'proud for' is acceptable. It's no wonder your dictionaries don't have it, because I don't think it exists in proper English.
Vince
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At the New York Times the hits are 350-2 in favor of "proud of them" (vs. "proud for them").
Clear cut.
Clear cut.
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for = in place of The I in IBM stands for International.
We are proud of him. = We have a feeling of pride toward him.
We are proud for him. = We share the feeling of pride that he has toward himself.
Compare: We are happy for him.
CJ
We are proud of him. = We have a feeling of pride toward him.
We are proud for him. = We share the feeling of pride that he has toward himself.
Compare: We are happy for him.
CJ
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CalifJimYes, this is right. I knew about it, but I got confused in the stats
We are proud of him. = We have a feeling of pride toward him.
We are proud for him. = We share the feeling of pride that he has toward himself.
Compare: We are happy for him.
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CalifJimfor = in place of The I in IBM stands for International.Very inte
We are proud of him. = We have a feeling of pride toward him.
We are proud for him. = We share the feeling of pride that he has toward himself.
Compare: We are happy for him.
CJ
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So, Is the 'for' in 'I feel sorry for him' the same?I would say so. Let's say that he is feeling sorry because of something that happened to him. I feel sorry, too, "in his place". Hence, I feel sorry for him.
CJ
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I don't know how other members feel; but it seems to me that in a rhetorical structure of this kind, where two prepositional phrases are yoked together, as long as the first prepositional phrase is unexceptional, the second can be quite unusual, or even a novelty, in order to jolt the reader/listener, e.g.
1. We are proud of him... ] unexceptional set phrase; the listener nods or smiles.
1. We are proud of him... ] unexceptional set phrase; the listener nods or smiles.
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Mr. P.,
I'm hard pressed to come up with an example other than the one already quoted. Well , of course, there's the famous Lincoln rhetoric of the people, for the people, and by the people, if that's the sort of thing you have in mind. (I may have the order wrong.) Do you have any others? (I'm sure you do. You're always a few steps ahead of me in the creativity department
I'm hard pressed to come up with an example other than the one already quoted. Well , of course, there's the famous Lincoln rhetoric of the people, for the people, and by the people, if that's the sort of thing you have in mind. (I may have the order wrong.) Do you have any others? (I'm sure you do. You're always a few steps ahead of me in the creativity department
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