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Pronunciation of "Robin Hood"

I happened to catch an old Warner Bros. cartoon, from the 'Forties I'm guessing, starring Daffy Duck and Porky Pig, where Daffy Duck was Robin Hood and Porky was Friar Tuck. As both characters, Mel Blanc pronounced "Robin Hood" with stress on "Hood". To me, however, the normal pronunciation of "Robin Hood" is "ROBINhood", receiving a stress pattern like single-word -hood terms (e.g. "brotherhood"). IOW, it's like the legendary Fort Leonard Wood that AUErs with military experience have said so much about.
"Robin HOOD" sounds like a BrE pronunciation it reminds me of how BrE speakers pronounce "Amsterdam" as "AmsterDAM", while in AmE it's "AMsterdam". But Mel Blanc was American, of course, as were Daffy and Porky. So was "Robin Hood" a few generations ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE? Are there AmE speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?
  

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re: ROBin Hood vs Robin HOOD [nq:1]"Robin HOOD" sounds like a BrE pronunciation it reminds me of how BrE speakers pronounce "Amsterdam" as "AmsterDAM", while ... ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE? [/nq] I think the usual practice with names is to stress the surname rather than the given John SMITH, rather than JOHN Smith so I wonder if the given-name stress in this case was the result of the television theme song, and that this altered the usual practice?

  • re: ROBin Hood vs Robin HOOD [nq:1]"Robin HOOD" sounds like a BrE pronunciation it reminds me of how BrE speakers pronounce "Amsterdam" as "AmsterDAM", while ...
  • ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE?
  • [/nq] I think the usual practice with names is to stress the surname rather than the given John SMITH, rather than JOHN Smith so I wonder if the given-name stress in this case was the result of the television theme song, and that this altered the usual practice?
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re: ROBin Hood vs Robin HOOD
[nq:1]"Robin HOOD" sounds like a BrE pronunciation it reminds me of how BrE speakers pronounce "Amsterdam" as "AmsterDAM", while ... ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE? Are there AmE speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?[/nq]
I think the usual practice with names is to stress the surname rather than the given Jo
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[nq:2]"Robin HOOD" sounds like a BrE pronunciation it reminds ... speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think the usual practice with names is to stress the surname rather than the given John SMITH, rather ... given-name stress in this case was the result of the television theme song, and that this altered the usual practice?[/nq]
I can comment on o
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[nq:1]I happened to catch an old Warner Bros. cartoon, from the 'Forties I'm guessing, starring Daffy Duck and Porky Pig, ... ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE? Are there AmE speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?[/nq]
Yes, it's always "Robin HOOD" in BrE (and, as Areff says, AmsterDAM).

Alan Jones
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[nq:1]I happened to catch an old Warner Bros. cartoon, from the 'Forties I'm guessing, starring Daffy Duck and Porky Pig, ... ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE? Are there AmE speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?[/nq]
OK, I am sitting here after a very good lunch to celebrate a friend's sixtith birthday (and my husband assures me I have drunk at l
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[nq:1]I happened to catch an old Warner Bros. cartoon, from the 'Forties I'm guessing, starring Daffy Duck and Porky Pig, ... Porky was Friar Tuck. As both characters, Mel Blanc pronounced "Robin Hood" with stress on "Hood". To me, however, the[/nq]
He may have been having a play on the second meaning of "hood" - as in hoodlum...
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[nq:1]I can comment on only the way it was pronounced from about 1928 on, but all I've ever heard has ... right to think that there could have been a Mr and Mrs Hood who had sons Samuel, Clarence, and Robin.[/nq]
I concur. I think we think of "Robin Hood" as a kind of superhero like "Superman". I'm point Richard made about stress on last names really clears things up for me as to why the Briti
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[nq:2]"Robin HOOD" sounds like a BrE pronunciation it reminds ... speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?[/nq]
[nq:1]OK, I am sitting here after a very good lunch to celebrate a friend's sixtith birthday (and my husband assures ... good vintage champagne) but neither Amsterdam not Robin Hood have any specific stress as far as this Brit is co
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[nq:1]I happened to catch an old Warner Bros. cartoon, from the 'Forties I'm guessing, starring Daffy Duck and Porky Pig, ... ago standardly pronounced "Robin HOOD" in AmE? Are there AmE speakers even today who say "Robin HOOD" rather than "ROBinhood"?[/nq]
Depends whether or not they say GEORGE-Bush, as in "gooseberry bush". It's always bugged me, not so much that they do this ridiculous ROBI
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[nq:2]OK, I am sitting here after a very good lunch ... any specific stress as far as this Brit is concerned.[/nq]
[nq:1]Glad to hear you're feeling particuarly unstressed at the moment, Laura..[/nq]

[nq:1]I wonder if this is an "ear" thing: if one stresses a certain syllable, the absence of any pronounced syllabic stress can sound like opposite s
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[nq:1]I concur. I think we think of "Robin Hood" as a kind of superhero like "Superman". I'm point Richard made ... This kind of info is why I love groups like AUE. I can say I gave it much thought before.[/nq]
- deviation. There are no groups like AUE.

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