Pronouns

Hi,

What is the correct word order (if there is one) for two object pronouns? For example, is is "He hated her and me" or "He hated me and her"? I wouldn't really say that grammar requires a particular order. Such matters usually come from politeness. eg For subjects, Mary and I is usually more polite than I and Mary'. But I don't see as much need fo

CliveHi,

What is the correct word order (if there is one) for two object pronouns? For example, is is "He hated her and me" or "He hated me and her"? I wouldn't really say that grammar requires a particular order. Such matters usually come from politeness. eg For subjects, Mary and I is usually more polite than I and Mary'.

No disrespect to you personally Yoong Liat, but frankly you can read almost anything in a book. And that's half the problem. Actually almost any time that either grammar or etiquette are discussed (including here), you get people searching desperately to come up with rules that either barely exist, or are actually applied by about 0.00000001% of the native speaking population -and as such are n

SaiingNo disrespect to you personally Yoong Liat, but frankly you can read almost anything in a book. And that's half the problem. Actually almost any time that either grammar or etiquette are discussed (including here), you get people searching desperately to come up with rules that either barely exist, or are actually applied by about 0.00000001% of the native speakin

I am not taking sides here, but as a native speaker, I would never, ever say "I and Peter" (unless I changed my mind about what I wanted to say as I was saying it: "I.... uh, oh, and Peter too, I guess, will be a the party.")

Negative or positive, it will always be "Peter and I."

(As a side note, I agree with Sailing to the extent that there are some people who look for tiny nu

Grammar GeekI am not taking sides here, but as a native speaker, I would never, ever say "I and Peter" (unless I changed my mind about what I wanted to say as I was saying it: "I.... uh, oh, and Peter too, I guess, will be a the party.")

Negative or positive, it will always be "Peter and I."

Very interesting. Never thought of this question.

BTW, there seems to be no politeness extended to "they" by "we"

"They and we" and "

"They and we" (as well as "We and they") sound VERY strange. If they are we are both doing this thing (as a compound subject), wouldn't we just say "We all" or "We both"?

If you want to emphasize that "they" are different from "us," then I'd use each pronouns with its own verb. "The fact that we were going to be there at the same time that they were going to be there was not a factor bec

Click on those links in my posting, GG, to see examples (OK, a bit cut, but ...):-)

Also:

Rupert of Hentzau by Hope, Anthony - Chapter 19

flames were burnt down now; and we and they approached the charred ruins. Everyt

Hi Marius

Also:

Rupert of Hentzau by Hope, Anthony - Chapter 19

flames were burnt down now; and we and they approached the charred ruins. Everything was in ashes. But"he lowered his voice"we found what seemed to be ...