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Pronounciation before meaning
Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced. As they see the word, they mangle the pronounciation. How important is it to first be familiar with the pronounciation of a word before learning its meaning?
Would a drill where a student hears a word and is asked to quickly pick out the word in a list be helpful even though there is no meaning associated with the word? Or would the student's time be better spent practicing reading?
Would a drill where a student hears a word and is asked to quickly pick out the word in a list be helpful even though there is no meaning associated with the word? Or would the student's time be better spent practicing reading?
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Don Myers wrote on 20 Nov 2004: [nq:1]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced. As they see the ...
- Don Myers wrote on 20 Nov 2004: [nq:1]Teachers tell students to practice reading.
- Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced.
- As they see the ...
- [/nq] I think there is no point in teaching students how to spell or pronounce words without providing their associated meanings.
- I also think there is no point in teaching vocabulary lists in which the words are defined out of the context of a piece of discourse being studied in the class.
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Don Myers wrote on 20 Nov 2004:
[nq:1]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced. As they see the ... quickly pick out the word in a list be helpful even though there is no meaning associated with the word?[/nq]
I think there is no point in teaching students how to spell or pronounce words without providing their associate
[nq:1]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced. As they see the ... quickly pick out the word in a list be helpful even though there is no meaning associated with the word?[/nq]
I think there is no point in teaching students how to spell or pronounce words without providing their associate
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[nq:1]Don Myers wrote on 20 Nov 2004:[/nq]
[nq:2]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across ... even though there is no meaning associated with the word?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think there is no point in teaching students how to spell or pronounce words without providing their associated meanings.[/nq]
I was arguing this over in sci.lang a few months ago, well, not exac
[nq:2]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across ... even though there is no meaning associated with the word?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think there is no point in teaching students how to spell or pronounce words without providing their associated meanings.[/nq]
I was arguing this over in sci.lang a few months ago, well, not exac
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[nq:1]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced. As they see the word, they mangle the pronounciation. How important is it to first be familiar with the pronounciation of a word before learning its meaning?[/nq]
As an EFL, I find that quite useful.
Of course, I am also curious about the meaning of words and I look them up
As an EFL, I find that quite useful.
Of course, I am also curious about the meaning of words and I look them up
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[nq:1]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across many words they've never heard pronounced. As they see the ... quickly pick out the word in a list be helpful even though there is no meaning associated with the word?[/nq]
Probably not, because we learn words in conjunction with their meaning, and a word which we recognise but don't attach meaning to is as much use as
Probably not, because we learn words in conjunction with their meaning, and a word which we recognise but don't attach meaning to is as much use as
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[nq:1]One way round this is having students read passages aloud in class. This is frowned on in Teacher Training orthodoxy, but definitely picks up the words students can't pronounce.[/nq]
Could you expand on this please? I have a student who insists upon reading aloud everything that I give her. The only objection that I have to this is that it wastes time. I wonder what other objections ther
Could you expand on this please? I have a student who insists upon reading aloud everything that I give her. The only objection that I have to this is that it wastes time. I wonder what other objections ther
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[nq:2]One way round this is having students read passages aloud ... orthodoxy, but definitely picks up the words students can't pronounce.[/nq]
[nq:1]Could you expand on this please? I have a student who insists upon reading aloud everything that I give her. ... what other objections there might be. That she may end up being unable to read silently? That would seem far-fetched.[/nq]
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[nq:1]Could you expand on this please? I have a student who insists upon reading aloud everything that I give her. ... what other objections there might be. That she may end up being unable to read silently? That would seem far-fetched.[/nq]
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[nq:1]One way round this is having students read passages aloud in class. This is frowned on in Teacher Training orthodoxy,[/nq]
Why is that?
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[nq:2]Teachers tell students to practice reading. Students then run across ... with the pronounciation of a word before learning its meaning?[/nq]
[nq:1]As an EFL,[/nq]
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[nq:1]I find that quite useful. Of course, I am also curious about the meaning of words and I look them ... can. Still, I think reading is a good exercise even if I don't know all the words in the passage.[/nq
[nq:1]As an EFL,[/nq]
"learner"
[nq:1]I find that quite useful. Of course, I am also curious about the meaning of words and I look them ... can. Still, I think reading is a good exercise even if I don't know all the words in the passage.[/nq
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[nq:1]Anyone with a dictionary that either provides phonetic transcriptions for the words it defines or audio files that pronounce the words in one or more of the major English dialects ought to be able to acquire the correct pronunciation without needing a teacher's help.[/nq]
That could be said for virtually anything: you can find the meaning of words on dictionaries and grammar rules on gra
That could be said for virtually anything: you can find the meaning of words on dictionaries and grammar rules on gra
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Enrico C wrote on 21 Nov 2004:
[nq:2]Anyone with a dictionary that either providesShould have been "provides ... to acquire the correct pronunciation without needing a teacher's help.[/nq]
[nq:1]That could be said for virtually anything: you can find the meaning of words on dictionaries and grammar rules on grammar books.[/nq]
If you want to be absurd and you are being absurd, you know
[nq:2]Anyone with a dictionary that either providesShould have been "provides ... to acquire the correct pronunciation without needing a teacher's help.[/nq]
[nq:1]That could be said for virtually anything: you can find the meaning of words on dictionaries and grammar rules on grammar books.[/nq]
If you want to be absurd and you are being absurd, you know
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