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Taka Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

Process

Simple question. How does the underline part sound? Does it work?

I want to achieve what I want in the future and I would like to control the process of the results.
  

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Hi, Doesn't sound good. The meaning of the underlined part is unclear to me. Clive

  • Hi, Doesn't sound good.
  • The meaning of the underlined part is unclear to me.
  • Clive
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Hi,

Doesn't sound good. The meaning of the underlined part is unclear to me.

Clive
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If it is supposed to mean that the person wants to control the course of the future, what should it be like after 'control of the process...'?

Or without 'of the results' as:

I want to achieve what I want in the future and I would (also) like to control the process.

would it sound any better?
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Hi,

eg I want to achieve what I want in the future and I would like to control the process by which I do it..

The repetition of the word 'want' is infelicitous. I'd consider speaking of my goals.


Is the second part of the sentence really necessar
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Clive. Is the second part of the sentence really necessary?Doesn't 'achieve' imply that you control the process of achieving?Clive
I wonder if 'achieve' really imply such a thing

If not only the end results but also the process to achieve it is important, it may be necessary.

Or if it is 'get' instead of 'achieve', don't you think the second
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Hi,

'Get' does not fit well with 'achieve'.
When one achieves one's goal, one does not necessarily 'get' anything.

Clive
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CliveHi,'Get' does not fit well with 'achieve'.
What I meant was replacement, Clive.

I want to get what I want in the future and I would like to control the process of the results.
I want to get what I want in the future and I would like to control the process by which I do it.

You said th
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Hi,

When I read #1, I wonder What results? What process?

We don't normally speak in this way of results having a process.

Let's take a simple example.
I want a car. I get a car.
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CliveLet's take a simple example.I want a car. I get a car.In this example, what is 'the process of the results'
No process comes to your mind between 'want a car' and 'get a car'?
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Hi,

Yes, I understand 'the process', eg driving, deciding, paying, etc.

But the meaning of 'the process of the results' eludes me. In what way does that differ from 'the process'?

Clive
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So I asked this before:

...without 'of the results', would it sound any better?

I want to get what I want in the future and I would (also) like to control the process.

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