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Kenny1999 Posted 15 years ago
Grammar
Problems with participle
Hello
I want to learn the real English so I ask here. I have something about Participle that I'd like to make myself clear.
I know that there are three types of Participle - Present, Past, and Perfect. While for each type of participle there are "Active" and "Passive" form.
It can be summarized as a small table like this.
Present Past Perfect
Active doing - having done
Passive being done done having been done
This is also the table for most English grammar books.
However, I doubt the passive form of present participle "being done" has a difference with the passive form of past participle "done" (as it looks different). Am I correct?
I know there are only one exception to the case, it is when I need to use verb-to-be as the active action of a verb, then "being done" will be useful.
e.g. Since I was late for school, I was punished by my teacher.
==> "Being late for school, I was punished by my teacher.",
In fact, can I shorten it to "Late for school, I was punished by my teacher"??? ( I don't think so but I am not sure.)
For the perfect case, "having done" and "having been done", they are only used when we want to emphasize the time difference, am I correct?
The last question - For the conditional sentence, from Type O to Type III, can I change it to become participle? I know that it is possible for type I, e.g.
If you cheat in the exam, you will be disqualified.
=> "cheating in the exam, you will be disqualified."
How about other type like Type II and Type III? Can I change them to participle? For example,
If I were you, I would quit the job."
=> "Being you, I would quite the job." is it ok? (but I think it is very strange!)
or
If you gained enough money, you would be able to buy a new TV
=> "Not gaining enough money, you are not able to buy a new TV" it is ok? (or any other ok?)
or
If you had studied harder for the exam, you would not have failed.
=> Not having studied harder for the exam, you failed.
Please clarify to me for anything I am wrong or not clear, because I need the accurate grammar to teach some people. Thanks you!!!!
I want to learn the real English so I ask here. I have something about Participle that I'd like to make myself clear.
I know that there are three types of Participle - Present, Past, and Perfect. While for each type of participle there are "Active" and "Passive" form.
It can be summarized as a small table like this.
Present Past Perfect
Active doing - having done
Passive being done done having been done
This is also the table for most English grammar books.
However, I doubt the passive form of present participle "being done" has a difference with the passive form of past participle "done" (as it looks different). Am I correct?
I know there are only one exception to the case, it is when I need to use verb-to-be as the active action of a verb, then "being done" will be useful.
e.g. Since I was late for school, I was punished by my teacher.
==> "Being late for school, I was punished by my teacher.",
In fact, can I shorten it to "Late for school, I was punished by my teacher"??? ( I don't think so but I am not sure.)
For the perfect case, "having done" and "having been done", they are only used when we want to emphasize the time difference, am I correct?
The last question - For the conditional sentence, from Type O to Type III, can I change it to become participle? I know that it is possible for type I, e.g.
If you cheat in the exam, you will be disqualified.
=> "cheating in the exam, you will be disqualified."
How about other type like Type II and Type III? Can I change them to participle? For example,
If I were you, I would quit the job."
=> "Being you, I would quite the job." is it ok? (but I think it is very strange!)
or
If you gained enough money, you would be able to buy a new TV
=> "Not gaining enough money, you are not able to buy a new TV" it is ok? (or any other ok?)
or
If you had studied harder for the exam, you would not have failed.
=> Not having studied harder for the exam, you failed.
Please clarify to me for anything I am wrong or not clear, because I need the accurate grammar to teach some people. Thanks you!!!!
Top answer
kenny1999 However, I doubt the passive form of present participle "being done" has a difference with the passive form of past participle "done" (as it looks different). Am I correct? No.
- kenny1999 However, I doubt the passive form of present participle "being done" has a difference with the passive form of past participle "done" (as it looks different).
- Am I correct?
- No.
- g.
- Since I was late for school, I was punished by my teacher.
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kenny1999However, I doubt the passive form of present participle "being done" has a difference with the passive form of past participle "done" (as it looks different). Am I correct?No.
kenny1999e.g. Since I was late for school, I was punished by my teacher.
==> "Being late for school, I was punished by my teacher.",
In fact,
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Thank you
but I think that for conditional type O or type I, the participle can be used.
As I said "If you cheat in the exam, you will be punished" (Type I)
and I think it is possible to change it to (while you said not grammatically correct)
"Cheating in the exam, you will be punished"
(This is an example from a textbook, but I don't know which part yo
but I think that for conditional type O or type I, the participle can be used.
As I said "If you cheat in the exam, you will be punished" (Type I)
and I think it is possible to change it to (while you said not grammatically correct)
"Cheating in the exam, you will be punished"
(This is an example from a textbook, but I don't know which part yo
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