Present Perfect after since
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/linking-words-and-expressions/since
"When since introduces an action or event at a point of time in the past, we can use the past simple or present perfect after since and the present perfect in the main clause:
They haven’t received any junk mail since they moved house.
They haven’t received any junk mail since they’ve moved house."
Was stunned to see Present Perfect justified like that after since in this context. Is the latter example really possible? Have been correcting students for years... I've always thought Present Perfect after since is only used when the state lasts to include the present moment:
... since I've been/lived/had/loved/known, etc.
Thanks in advance,
YETY
Top answer
You'll find examples here and there with the present perfect in the grammatical context you describe, but it's not at all common. See the links below. Not every instance found has the exact context you're asking about, because "since" as "because" also gets caught in the net, but the graphs give you at least an impressionistic view of the situation.
- You'll find examples here and there with the present perfect in the grammatical context you describe, but it's not at all common.
- See the links below.
- Not every instance found has the exact context you're asking about, because "since" as "because" also gets caught in the net, but the graphs give you at least an impressionistic view of the situation.
- You might click on some of the more recent date ranges below these graphs to spot check the raw data.
- t1%3B%2Csince%20it%20happened%3B%2Cc0 CJ
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You'll find examples here and there with the present perfect in the grammatical context you describe, but it's not at all common. See the links below. Not every instance found has the exact context you're asking about, because "since" as "because" also gets caught in the net, but the graphs give you at least an impressionistic view of the situation. You might click on some of the more recen
0YETYlandI've always thought Present Perfect after since is only used when the state lasts to include the present moment:
"moved house" is perceived as rather state-like, which I think is why the present perfect works reasonably well in your sentence. The present perfect works less well, or not at all, with more discrete past actions, e.g. "I haven't receive
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