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Hans51 Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

Present participles involve gerunds?

We have learned that the form of base ing can be used for present participles and gerunds but according to some definitions, base ing itself is called present participles and then we should change a lot of things here.
Do you agree that a gerund is a part of present participles and they function as an adjective and a noun (gerund), etc?

In grammar, the present participle of a verb is the form which ends in `-ing'. Present participles are used to form continuous tenses, as in `She was wearing a neat blue suit'. They are often nouns, as in `I hate cooking' and`Cooking can be fun'. Many of them can be used like an adjective in front of a noun, as in `their smiling faces'.
- Collins-

Cf. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/present_participle
  

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When the - ing form is used adjectivally, it's generally known as a participle; when it's used as a noun, it's known as a gerund. These words are only labels. I don't think it's helpful to say that gerunds are participles, or vice versa, but I am happy to consider both gerunds and participles as - ing forms .

  • When the - ing form is used adjectivally, it's generally known as a participle; when it's used as a noun, it's known as a gerund.
  • These words are only labels.
  • I don't think it's helpful to say that gerunds are participles, or vice versa, but I am happy to consider both gerunds and participles as - ing forms .
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When the -ing form is used adjectivally, it's generally known as a participle; when it's used as a noun, it's known as a gerund. These words are only labels. I don't think it's helpful to say that gerunds are participles, or vice versa, but I am happy to consider both gerunds and participles as -ing forms.
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Thank you sir and I am with you but I cannot ignore what they say, so by the way there are different opinions on the labeling thing, right? I cannot wait to hear again.
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Gerund : a noun in the form of the present participle of a verb (that is, ending in -ing) for example travelling in the sentence I preferred travelling alone.
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a noun in the form of the present participle of a verb, for example 'shopping' in the sentence 'I like shopping'

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Hans51 we also can say that gerund is a part of the present participle. What do you think?
The gerund is not 'part' of the present participle.The gerund and the present participle have the identical form ending in -ing. Some learners may think of both as simply the '-ing form'. That's fine.
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Thank you and then you do not agree with the definitions by the dictionaries? I really appreciate your help and opinions as usual.
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Hans51then you do not agree with the definitions by the dictionaries?
I did not say or suggest that.
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Hans51Thank you and then you do not agree with the definitions by the dictionaries?
Wiktionary is not a dictionary. It is an open online project. You can safely ignore anything you see there. There are real dictionaries at onelook.com.
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Thank you and then can we say there are other thoughts about that?
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Hans51Thank you and then can we say there are other thoughts about that?
The first thing to remember is that every verb paradigm has two distinct verb-forms reserved for present participle and gerund, and they share the same shape - both ending in ing. Here, for example, is the paradigm for the verb "walk":

Present tense 3rd sing: walks
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