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Electrum Posted 15 years ago
Grammar

Preposition plus pronoun plus gerund/participle

What do you think of these sentences?

Despite his saying he would not go, he went.
Despite his own saying he would not go, he went.
Despite himself saying he would not go, he went.

I can say: His (own) saying that he would not go didn't keep him from going.
But can I say grammatically: Himself saying he would not go did not keep him from going?

In view of this, shouldn't we consider the third despite sentence ill-formed?
  

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electrum What do you think of these sentences? Despite his saying he would not go, he went. Despite his own saying he would not go, he went.

  • electrum What do you think of these sentences?
  • Despite his saying he would not go, he went.
  • Despite his own saying he would not go, he went.
  • Despite himself saying he would not go, he went.
  • Only the first can be used.
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electrumWhat do you think of these sentences?

Despite his saying he would not go, he went.
Despite his own saying he would not go, he went.
Despite himself saying he would not go, he went.
Only the first can be used. The other two are incorrect.
electrumI can say: His (own) saying that he would not go didn't
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Despite himself saying is from Obama's utternaces.

Here's one I found on line:
I go to sleep with that guy on the DVD player and so him saying that was like the biggest compliment ever.

What I'm gettinmg at though is this. Compare:
With John's pleading guilty, he was given a light sentence.
I cannot concentrate with John standing over me.

It so
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Despite himself saying is from Obama's utterances.

Here's one I found online:

I go to sleep with that guy on the DVD player and so him saying that was like the biggest compliment ever.

What I'm getting at though is the difference between these sentences:
With John's pleading guilty, he was given a light sentence.
I can't concentrate with John plead
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electrumDespite himself saying is from Obama's utterances.
Yes? What is the significance of its being uttered by Obama? I don't understand your point.
electrumWhat I'm getting at though is the difference between these sentences:
With John's pleading guilty, he was given a light sentence.
I can't concentrate with John pl
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electrumDespite himself saying is from Obama's utterances.
Yes? What is the significance of its being uttered by Obama? I don't understand your point.
I was merely surprised that a lawyer and poltician with advanced college degrees would make what seemed to me such an obvious blunder. Of course, if he made it in a

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