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Please help!! Why 'a' and not 'the'?
0 Hello everyone, I'm in a grammar emergency. I was asked a question and am having trouble providing an adequate answer. 02 br
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00 Here is the original sentence (about countries): 02 br
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00 Now they are both members of the EU, a fact that has helped them integrate both economically and politically with the rest of Western Europe. 02 br
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00 The question was - should it be A fact or THE fact? I replied that it should be A fact, the sentence above is correct. This confused the writer, who then asked me two follow up questions: 02 br
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00 1. If we are using THAT as a relative pronoun, why dont we say 'THE fact'?? (Maybe part of the answer here is that we aren't using 'that' as a relative pronoun? I'm really not sure). 02 br
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00 2. If we know the concrete indicating word, we usually say THE instead of A, so why is it A in this case? 02 br
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00 And now I'm confused. Please help!! 02 br
00 Mark, trying to work this out 02 br
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00 Here is the original sentence (about countries): 02 br
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00 Now they are both members of the EU, a fact that has helped them integrate both economically and politically with the rest of Western Europe. 02 br
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00 The question was - should it be A fact or THE fact? I replied that it should be A fact, the sentence above is correct. This confused the writer, who then asked me two follow up questions: 02 br
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00 1. If we are using THAT as a relative pronoun, why dont we say 'THE fact'?? (Maybe part of the answer here is that we aren't using 'that' as a relative pronoun? I'm really not sure). 02 br
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00 2. If we know the concrete indicating word, we usually say THE instead of A, so why is it A in this case? 02 br
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00 And now I'm confused. Please help!! 02 br
00 Mark, trying to work this out 02 br
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Top answer
0 "that" is indeed a relative pronoun, but, on the other hand, there is no requirement for the antecedent to be preceded by the determiner "the". 02 br 02 br 00 Let's choose 01 b 00 a 02 b 00 restaurant that everybody can agree on. 02 br 02 br 00 So I don't follow the logic of the first objection to "a" in "a fact".
- 0 "that" is indeed a relative pronoun, but, on the other hand, there is no requirement for the antecedent to be preceded by the determiner "the".
- 02 br 02 br 00 Let's choose 01 b 00 a 02 b 00 restaurant that everybody can agree on.
- 02 br 02 br 00 So I don't follow the logic of the first objection to "a" in "a fact".
- 02 br 02 br 01 i 00 ______ 02 i 02 br 02 br 00 "a" indicates "one of the" or "this" in the given context.
- 02 br 02 br 00 Now they are both members of the EU.
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0 "that" is indeed a relative pronoun, but, on the other hand, there is no requirement for the antecedent to be preceded by the determiner "the". 02 br
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00 Let's choose 01 b 00 a 02 b 00 restaurant that everybody can agree on. 02 br
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00 So I don't follow the logic of the first objection to "a" in "a fact". 02 br
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00 Let's choose 01 b 00 a 02 b 00 restaurant that everybody can agree on. 02 br
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00 So I don't follow the logic of the first objection to "a" in "a fact". 02 br
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0 THANK YOU for the quick response!! It's very helpful. Any other ideas would certianly be appreciated. 0-
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