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0By sieving the effective Chinese materia medica and recipes from the classic and modern literature and the validation of all the past dynasties, we can not only deduce the etiological factors, pathological factors and physiopathologic change rules of stomach pain, but also detect the principles and methods of the treatment of it, and thereupon generalize a practical and effective clinical treatment norm.02br02br00Are the above sentences grammatical and idiomatic?02br02br00Any comments are welcome!0-

Avangi · Accepted Answer

0Hi Maple,02br
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00Are you sure you mean "sentences"? That looks to me like one wallyloobirdpippin of a single sentence!02br
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00Are Chinese materia medica medicinal herbs or the collected wisdom of the ages re stomach pain?02br
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00By "sieving" are you speaking figuratively about going through all existing information and saving the best, or are you straining tea?02br
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00Are we also sieving the recipes and the validation? I have to assume we are, since the first comma is after "dynasties."02br
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00The rest of it flows pretty well and seems to be in grammatical order. My only problem lies in swallowing that first clause, or the section up to the first comma. I'm assuming you mean to run all these things through a sieve. I don't see anything wrong with the grammar, but I expect only someone who has memorized the sentence, or someone with a 150 IQ would be able to digest it in one reading.02br
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00Edit. My guess is that we're sieving two things: materia medica, and recipes. There are two sources for these two things: classic and modern literature. I expect the validation is a separate deal. I think you have to find a way to clarify the relationship between the sieving and the validation - at least enough so one can grasp it in one reading. - A.02br
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00pps. Perhaps another source of confusion is that the sentence is paragraph length and we have to wait til we get to the middle of it before we get a sense of the topic. All of the things you invite us to deduce after the first comma pertain to stomach pain, but you ask us to hold them all in suspension until the main character is finally introduced. You might try to put something akin to a topic sentence close to the beginning. That would give us a hook to hang some of these rather specialized phrases on.02br
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00Best wishes, - A.0-

Maple · Answer

0Hi, Avangi02br
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00Thank you first! 01blockquote

00Are Chinese materia medica medicinal herbs or the collected wisdom of the ages re stomach pain? 12blockquote

10-----The former.01blockquote

00By "sieving" are you speaking figuratively about going through all existing information and saving the best, or are you straining tea? 12blockquote

10-----The former.02br
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00------In fact, It's my translating exercise. The source text kinda uses a figurative verb, and I literately transated it into "sieve".01blockquote

00Are we also sieving the recipes and the validation? I have to assume we are, since the first comma is after "dynasties." 12blockquote

10-----No. I supposed it would be read this way: By 01u00sieving 02u00the effective 01u00Chinese materia medica02u00 and01u00 recipes02u00, and by validating of all the past dynasties, we can not only ...........(Do you think I need 01i00validation02i00 or 01i00validating02i00?0-

Avangi · Answer

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01cite10Maple12cite10--No. I supposed it would be read this way: By 11u10sieving 12u10the effective 11u10Chinese materia medica12u10 and11u10 recipes12u10, and by validating of all the past dynasties, we can not only ..(Do you think I need 11i10validation12i10 or 11i10validating12i10?12blockquote

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00That was part of my problem in the beginning. I think "validation" is what you mean, but I may be mistaken. 01b00You02b00 are the one who is doing the sieving. But I understood you to mean it is the 01b00past02b00 01b00dynasties02b00 who have done the validation, so we speak of "the validation of past dynasties." Exactly what they have validated is not clearly stated, but I took it to mean that they have proven through the test of time the effectiveness of the medications and techniques you refer to earlier in the sentence.02br
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00In your last rendition, which I quoted, it seems to have changed so that "we" are the ones who now have to "validate" what has happened through past dynasties. I don't think this is right.0-

Maple · Answer

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00 I think "validation" is what you mean, ...12blockquote

10 Now, I think so, too. 02br
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00Thank you again, Avangi!050010id1

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