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Usenet Posted 23 years ago
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PINUPS (Postwar International Northern Utah Prestige Standard)

Having give further thought to the problem of choosing a standard prestige accent for the entire United States, and to the obvious solution, the adoption of the variety of speech spoken in Northern Utah, it has occurred to me that that excellent variety of English would also be a suitable standard for the rest of the English-speaking world.

For that reason, I've added the word "international" to the name to be used for this prestige standard, making the full name "Postwar International Northern Utah Prestige Standard" (PINUPS).
During my fairly long lifetime, I've mingled with English speakers from all over the United States and to some extent from other English-speaking countries. I've noticed with some surprise that every English speaker I've ever conversed with, with the exception of people from Northern Utah, has had to a greater or lesser extent some annoying defect in his or her accent. From these encounters, I've been led to the conclusion that the only defect-free variety of English in the English-speaking world may be the one spoken in Northern Utah. On that basis, the choice of Northern Utah speech for an international standard seems beyond challenge.

Let me assure the reader that the fact that I was born in Northern Utah and spent a significant number of my early years there, off and on, has no bearing on my preference for the English spoken there.

Bob Cunningham, Southern California, U S of A
Let's hear it for PINUPS, Postwar International Northern Utah Prestige Standard!
  

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Bob Cunningham (Email Removed) wrote in message ... [nq:1]Having give further thought to the problem of choosing a standard prestige accent for the entire United States, and to ... S.

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  • [nq:1]Having give further thought to the problem of choosing a standard prestige accent for the entire United States, and to ...
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  • I don't think it unreasonable to assume that the origin of this accent comes from somewhere in the Northeast.
  • I remember also reading that the adopting of "Broadcast English" originated from Edward R.
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Bob Cunningham (Email Removed) wrote in message ...
[nq:1]Having give further thought to the problem of choosing a standard prestige accent for the entire United States, and to ... number of my early years there, off and on, has no bearing on my preference for the English spoken there.[/nq]
While I do find it perhaps a bit much to say that RF's coinage PNYPS is an "American RP", there does
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Bob Cunningham (Email Removed) wrote on 28 Nov 2003:
[nq:1]Having give further thought to the problem of choosing a standard prestige accent for the entire United States, and to ... the name to be used for this prestige standard, making the full name "Postwar International Northern Utah Prestige Standard" (PINUPS).[/nq]
Bob, this would be very funny if you weren't recommending something so
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[nq:1]While I do find it perhaps a bit much to say that RF's coinage PNYPS is an "American RP", there ... U.S. I don't think it unreasonable to assume that the origin of this accent comes from somewhere in the Northeast.[/nq]
You are correct, sir. Let's not forget where the center of American news broadcasting is: in New York (Largest City in America), as it has been since the inception of Ame
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CyberCypher filted:
[nq:2]Having give further thought to the problem of choosing a ... the full name "Postwar International Northern Utah Prestige Standard" (PINUPS).[/nq]
[nq:1]Bob, this would be very funny if you weren't recommending something so closely associated with the nefarious Orrin Hatch. The only thing Utahan worth adopting is salt, AFAICT, and a good deal of it.[/nq]
Politi
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R H Draney (Email Removed) wrote on 28 Nov 2003:
[nq:1]Politicians aside, the biggest problem with basing a "standard" dialect on anything from Utah is the the word "coffee" will ... of silent letters.. Up next, the Prestige International North-East California, Oregon and Nevada (Eastern Sierra) dialect...let's all start speaking PINECONES..r[/nq]
LOL!

Franke: EFL teacher & medica
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[nq:2]While I do find it perhaps a bit much to ... origin of this accent comes from somewhere in the Northeast.[/nq]
[nq:1]You are correct, sir. Let's not forget where the center of American news broadcasting is: in New York (Largest City in America), as it has been since the inception of American news broadcasting.[/nq]
Let's not forget that CNN is in Atlanta.
And let's not forget tha
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On 28 Nov 2003 06:59:45 -0800, R H Draney

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[nq:1]Politicians aside, the biggest problem with basing a "standard" dialect on anything from Utah is the the word "coffee" will have to be pronounced with a spitting sound at the end, and the word "bourbon" will be consist entirely of silent letters..[/nq]
Where in heaven's name is all that coming from? "Coffee" with a spitting
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In our last episode,
(Email Removed),
the lovely and talented CyberCypher
broadcast on alt.usage.english:
[nq:2]Politicians aside, the biggest problem with basing a "standard" dialect ... Oregon and Nevada (Eastern Sierra) dialect...let's all start speaking PINECONES..r[/nq]
[nq:1]LOL![/nq]
You are obviously not paying much attention to power politics or you would realize t
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Thus spake Lars Eighner:
[nq:1]You are obviously not paying much attention to power politics or you would realize that the wave of the future is Texas Urban Republican Dialect Standard.[/nq]
That's just a minor variant of the Seneca-Houston Idiolectical Talking Standard.

Simon R. Hughes
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[nq:1]Thus spake Lars Eighner:[/nq]
That's just a minor variant of the Seneca-Houston Idiolectical
[nq:1]Talking Standard.[/nq]
The northern version of which is Canadian Unmodulated Neutral (Toronto) Standard.

Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

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