Phrasal Verbs - identifying the particle as an adverb or preposition

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I am trying to prepare class notes for teaching the basics of phrasal verbs to ESOL/EFL students.
I am having trouble trying to find an ONLINE discussion of how to identify the PV particle as being an adverb or a preposition as in:

He ran up the stairs
She ran up the phone bill / she ran the phone bill up

I myself have trouble trying to decide whether I'm dealing with a verb+prep or verb+adv :-(
Can anyone point me to an ONLINE (WWW) source of information on this subject?
I HAVE tried searching Google but it is difficult to come up with an adequate search argument in this case and after two days of searching I decided to put out a call for help.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your time

Paulo
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(adolescent memories ;-)

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[nq:1]I am trying to prepare class notes for teaching the basics of phrasal verbs to ESOL/EFL students. I am having ... search argument in this case and after two days of searching I decided to put out a call for help.[/nq]
Here's an article on phrasal verbs, with linked lists and quizzes:

http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/verbs.htm#phrasal
I got this via our Intro B, and you may find more help there (try the English as a foreign language section, and the Writing and Grammar section).
http://www.alt-usage-english.org/intro b.shtml
Whether you'll find the precise thing you are looking for (how to identify), I don't know. I know from learning a similar set of verbs in Dutch that I just have to battle them out one by one.

Best wishes Donna Richoux

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[nq:1]Here's an article on phrasal verbs, with linked lists and quizzes: http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/verbs.htm#phrasal I got this via our Intro B, and ... from learning a similar set of verbs in Dutch that I just have to battle them out one by one.[/nq]
Thank you Donna - I'll go look.
I apologize if I asked something that was staring me in the face but I'm new to this aue scene.
I am trying to find help in identification of sdv/prep as, according to some sources, "When the compound contains a preposition, the compound is called an inseparable phrasal verb because the preposition can never be separated from the verb. When the compound contains an adverb, the adverb can be moved away from the verb"

Although I realize that this is probably not a universal rule it IS at least a handle for EFL beginners to grab and use as a help in starting a seemingly impossible task - learning PVs. :-(
Off I go to look at your suggested references
Bye for now

Paulo
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[nq:1]I am trying to prepare class notes for teaching the basics of phrasal verbs to ESOL/EFL students. I am having trouble trying to find an ONLINE discussion of how to identify the PV particle as being an adverb or a preposition as in:[/nq]
I can't point you to an online discussion, but
[nq:1]He ran up the stairs[/nq]
He ran up them.
[nq:1]She ran up the phone bill / she ran the phone bill up[/nq]
She ran it up. ("She ran up it", treats "up it" as a prepositional phrase meaning actual motion along the phone bill.)
[nq:1]I myself have trouble trying to decide whether I'm dealing with a verb+prep or verb+adv :-([/nq]
If you substitute a pronoun, if the verb takes a prepositional phrase, the preposition will precede the pronoun, while if the verb takes an adverbial particle, it will follow the pronoun.

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