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Hela Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Phineas Redux (tenses)

0 Dear MrP, 02br
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00This is one passage you sent me taken from the book. I put the verbs in the infinitive and tried to find the right tenses again. 02br
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00If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to tell me if, without other context, the tenses / prepositions in 01b00capital letters02b00 are possible. The tenses in brackets are the original ones. 02br
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00… Phineas, as he heard this, remembered former days in which he 01b00102b00 (had ridden) / HAD BEEN RIDING / USED TO RIDE (?) about Saulsby Woods, and 01b00202b00 (had thought) / THOUGHT (= he remembered and thought ?) them to be anything but hateful. “Is Saulsby shut up?” he asked. 02br
00“Altogether, and so is the house in Portman Square. There never was anything more sad or desolate. You 01b00302b00 (would find) / b) WILL FIND him altered, Mr Finn. He is quite an old man now. He 01b00402b00 (was) / b) WILL BE here in the spring, for a week or two — in England, that is; but he 01b00502b00 (stayed) / b) WILL STAY / WILL BE STAYING 01b00602b00 (at) / IN an hotel in London. He and Laura 01b00702b00 (live) / ARE LIVING 01b00802b00 (at) / IN Dresden now, and a very sad time they 01b00902b00 (must have) / MUST BE HAVING.” 02br
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00“Does she write?” 02br
00“Yes; and keeps up all her interest about politics. I have already told her that you are to stand for Tankerville. No one, no other human being in the world, 01b001002b00 (will be) / WOULD BE / IS (?) so interested for you as she is. If any friend ever felt an interest almost selfish for a friend’s welfare, she 01b001102b00 (will feel) / WOULD FEEL such an interest for you. If you were to succeed it would give her a hope in life.” Phineas 01b001202b00 (sat) / WAS SITTING silent, drinking in the words that were said to him. If they were true, or at least meant to be true, they were full of flattery. Why should this woman of whom they were speaking love him so dearly? She was nothing 01b001302b00 (to) / FOR him. She was highly born, greatly gifted, wealthy, and a married woman, whose character, as he well knew, was beyond the taint of suspicion, though she had been driven by the hard sullenness of her husband to refuse to live under his roof. Phineas Finn and Lady Laura Kennedy had not seen each other for two years, and when they 01b001402b00 (had parted) / PARTED, though they 01b001502b00 (had lived) / HAD BEEN LIVING / LIVED as friends, there 01b001602b00 (had been) / WERE no signs of still living friendship. […] Now he 01b001702b00 (was told) / WAS BEING TOLD by this woman’s dearest friend that his welfare was closer to her heart than any other interest! 02br
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00“I dare say you always think of her?” said Lady Chiltern. 02br
00“Indeed, I do.” 02br
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00“What virtues she used to ascribe to you! What sins she forgave you! How hard she fought for you! Now, though she can fight no more, she does not think of 01b00it02b00 all the less.” (WHAT DOES “IT” REFER TO ?) 02br
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00“Poor Lady Laura!” 02br
00“Poor Laura, indeed! When one sees such shipwreck it makes a woman doubt 01b001802b00 (whether) / IF she 01b001902b00 (ought to marry) / SHOULD / MUST / HAD TO MARRY at all.” 02br
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00Thank you very much for your help, 02br
00Hela 0-
  

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0 Hello Hela 02br 02br 00That's a good idea. 02br 02br 00These are the ones that don't work: 02br 02br 001. 'used to ride' is almost ok; but it doesn't quite work.

  • 0 Hello Hela 02br 02br 00That's a good idea.
  • 02br 02br 00These are the ones that don't work: 02br 02br 001.
  • 'used to ride' is almost ok; but it doesn't quite work.
  • 02br 0013.
  • No, it has to be 'to'!
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0 Hello Hela 02br
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00That's a good idea. 02br
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00These are the ones that don't work: 02br
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001. 'used to ride' is almost ok; but it doesn't quite work. 02br
0013. No, it has to be 'to'! 02br
0015. 'had been' is fine; but not 'lived'. 02br
0019. Not 'must' or 'had to'. 02br
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0Thank you VERY much, MrP. 05002br
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00Sorry, I still have more questions about the alternatives. Example: 02br
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01b00102b00“Altogether, and so is the house in Portman Square. There never was anything more sad or desolate. You a) 01u00would find02u00 [original] / b) 01b00WILL FIND02b0
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0 Sorry, Hela, I've only just arrived at your post! Will ponder and reply tomorrow. 02br
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00Sleep well. 02br
00MrP 0-
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0 Hello Hela 02br
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01b00102b00“Altogether, and so is the house in Portman Square. There never was anything more sad or desolate. You a) 01u00would find02u00 [original] / b) 01b00WILL FIND02b00 him altered, Mr Finn. He is quite an old man now. 02br
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00a) Now, did the author use the co
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0OK, I'll wait patiently until you find an explanation for question 305002br
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00In the meantime, if instead of writing "sat, drinking in the words..." I use "sitting" should I say: 02br
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00a) He was 01u00sitting silent02u00, drinking in the words that were told to him. OR 02br
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00b) He was sitting
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0 Hmm. I think I would say: 02br
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00c) He was sitting in silence, drinking in her words. 02br
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00'He sat silent' seems ok; but 'he was sitting silent' doesn't seem right. The combination of progressive tense + adjective strikes me as odd. 02br
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00Back to Q3: 02br
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00"If any friend ever felt an interes
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0 Thank you VERY much MrP, I'll read all that very carefully. 02br
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00See you soon, 02br
00Hela 0-
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0 I read your comments and there is one thing I still can't understand: 02br
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001. If anyone ever felt X, she will feel X for you => If it is the case that Feeling X exists, she will experience Feeling X. So I wouldn't call it a mixed conditional.12blockquote
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00If “If anyone ever FELT / HAD such an interest f
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0 Not at all! It's a very tricky sentence. 02br
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00It's quite likely I'm wrong; but I would take 'will' as an emphatic 'will' here, rather than a future 'will', and 'ever felt' as present perfect in sense if not form. So I read the sentence as a whole as an emphatic version of: 02br
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001. If any friend has ever felt an interest almost selfish for a
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0 Thank you, MrP for you patience. That's really very kind of you. (y) 0-

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