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Period ouside of quotation marks?

I raised this question about 7 years ago in this NG. I remember the answer but not the authority.
When a sentence ends with a quotation the period goes inside the quotation marks. But I understand that when the sentence ends with quotation marks that are not used to set off a quotation but are used to set off a special phrase the period goes outside the quotation marks. EXAMPLE: This agreement is between The Acme Merchandising Company, Inc. hereafter referred to as "Vendor" and John Doe hereafter referred to as "Customer".
I need an authority for this. I am in a dispute with a stuborne person who insists that when ever a sentence ends with quotation marks that the period goes inside.
Also would the same principle apply to a sentence that ended with an Email address set off with . This same person insists that the period shoud goe inside the carots.
Example: Please respond to (Email Removed).

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[/nq] I believe the period got moved inside the quotation marks regardless of whether it made sense back when lead type was hand set. The period was a tiny, thin piece of type and if it had only a space after it had an unfortunate habit of getting broken off between the type stick and the press. Most often by the rag used to clean the type in the galley or even once the page had been locked into the chase after proofing.

  • [/nq] I believe the period got moved inside the quotation marks regardless of whether it made sense back when lead type was hand set.
  • The period was a tiny, thin piece of type and if it had only a space after it had an unfortunate habit of getting broken off between the type stick and the press.
  • Most often by the rag used to clean the type in the galley or even once the page had been locked into the chase after proofing.
  • So the proof showed it there but when the press ran it had disappeared.
  • If you were very unlucky it got wedged somewhere else on the page and made a real mess.
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[nq:1]I am in a dispute with a stuborne person who insists that when ever a sentence ends with quotation marks that the period goes inside.[/nq]
I believe the period got moved inside the quotation marks regardless of whether it made sense back when lead type was hand set.
The period was a tiny, thin piece of type and if it had only a space after it had an unfortunate habit of getting broke
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[nq:1]I raised this question about 7 years ago in this NG. I remember the answer but not the authority. When ... Doe hereafter referred to as "Customer". I need an authority for this. I am in a dispute with a stuborne[/nq]
Oy!
[nq:1]person who insists that when ever a sentence ends with quotation marks that the period goes inside.[/nq]
You have a problem. If your posting is accurate in
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Or maybe the British practice just makes more sense.
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[nq:1]I need an authority for this. I am in a dispute with a stuborne person who insists that when ever a sentence ends with quotation marks that the period goes inside.[/nq]
This proves only that the other person is American and you are not. The convention varies from country to country. (Although the "logical" convention, the one that says that you should put quotation marks around only what
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[nq:2]I need an authority for this. I am in a ... sentence ends with quotation marks that the period goes inside.[/nq]
[nq:1]This proves only that the other person is American and you are not. The convention varies from country to country. ... that you should put quotation marks around only what is being quoted, seems to be gaining favour in the USA.)[/nq]
Doesn't it seem silly to put quot
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[nq:2]I need an authority for this. I am in a ... sentence ends with quotation marks that the period goes inside.[/nq]
[nq:1]This proves only that the other person is American and you are not. The convention varies from country to country. ... that you should put quotation marks around only what is being quoted, seems to be gaining favour in the USA.)[/nq]
[nq:1]This case is more clear-cut
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[nq:2]This case is more clear-cut. It tends to suggest that ... that the following punctuation is not part of the address.[/nq]
[nq:1]Are they called carets? I thought the caret was[/nq]^. is "greater than". And there's my/the British way of positioning full stops.[/nq]
Agreed. In this context they're usually called "angle brackets".

David
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[nq:1]Doesn't it seem silly to put quotes around a single word that happens to end the sentence and include the period to end the entire sentence inside those "quotes?" I can't believe the rule applies to question "marks".[/nq]
Good thing, because it doesn't. The American rule applies to commas and periods, not to question marks.
I assume you surrounded "marks" with quotation marks out of
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[nq:2]Doesn't it seem silly to put quotes around a single ... "quotes?" I can't believe the rule applies to question "marks".[/nq]
[nq:1]Good thing, because it doesn't. The American rule applies to commas and periods, not to question marks.[/nq]
Does the rule extend to paranthesis? It should, because it seems awkward to end a sentence with something between paranthesis, when it would make
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Arcadian Rises filted:
[nq:1]Does the rule extend to paranthesis? It should, because it seems awkward to end a sentence with something between paranthesis, ... with the information given between paranthesis. After all, the purpose of paranthesis is to interrupt the flow of the sentence.[/nq]
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