Percolators and automatic drips

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I just purchased a new Krups Automatic Drip Thermal model 198, because I drink a good deal of coffee and I was tired of the heating apparatus burning out on the cheaper models. The new Krups has yet to prove its durability (I very nearly drink a pot a day), but I am amazed at the technology. There is truth in advertising and the contraption actually lives up to the retailing claims.
I made one pot yesterday, and the coffee stayed hot in the carafe all day all by itself, (when the brewing cycle is complete the carafe must be removed from the brewer, which turns itself off) so I was wondering if the Krups combined the best of both worlds, percolators and automatic drips, but neither Wikipedia nor dictionary has been able to offer me a clear distinction between the two methods of brewing, so I'm confused.

Joanne

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[nq:1]I just purchased a new Krups Automatic Drip Thermal model 198, because I drink a good deal of coffee and ... been able to offer me a clear distinction between the two methods of brewing, so I'm confused. Joanne /[/nq]
I'm not a big fan of brewed (drip) coffee. I like a plunger or espresso, but the espresso machine I bought, which I'm told is about the best you can get without spending kilobucks, gives a result that is disappointingly warm (not hot enough) and weak compared to the good stuff I get in the cafe downtown.
So my quest for a good home coffee continues. I used the espressso machine for a while, and still do occasionally, but most of the time I'm back to the plunger
As an aside, the coffee plunger is known in Britain as a cafetiere, a word little used here in Australia. It is often spelt with a grave accent on the second last "e" and pronounced kaffa-tyair, accent on the last syllable, somewhat like the French would say it.

Stephen
Lennox Head, Australia

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[nq:1]I made one pot yesterday, and the coffee stayed hot in the carafe all day all by itself, (when the ... nor dictionary has been able to offer me a clear distinction between the two methods of brewing, so I'm confused.[/nq]
Automatic drips channel boiling water through ground coffee once; percolators continue to cycle the liquid through the grounds.

RY

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[nq:2]I just purchased a new Krups Automatic Drip Thermal model ... two methods of brewing, so I'm confused. Joanne /[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm not a big fan of brewed (drip) coffee. I like a plunger or espresso, but the espresso machine I ... on the second last "e" and pronounced kaffa-tyair, accent on the last syllable, somewhat like the French would say it.[/nq]
Not surprising since it is a French word :-) Maybe it needs an acute over the first e. Let's see now, my Mac can probably handle it: cafétière. Looks strange.
Hi, Stephen. What part of Australia are you in? I lived many years in Brisbane and Sydney.
I'm a coffee addict myself. In Sydney, a connoisseur turned my on to Sega Fredo coffee and, sure enough, it's pretty good. But there is/was a coffee bar in Glebe Point Road with some name like Zanzibar or other African word. (Near the post office). They roast their own. Superb!

In Auckland there is another place that roasts their own and it's just great.
Never expect a good coffee in Russia, Ukraine, Poland or Lithuania. Never expect a bad one in France. There is a place in St Tropez, Le Club55, that gets it direct from ***.
Latvia has some great coffee places. Staburags in Riga for example. (Surely one of the best eating joints in the whole world!)

I think the espresso you get in commercial bars is a combination of the black super-concentrated stuff and hot milk. Not many people bother at home with heating the milk. (I don't mean using the silly pipe out the side, i ignore it. Just heat milk in the cup in the microwave while the espresso machine is doing its thing.).
Oh and the on-topic stuff? I think "percolator" and "drip" describe the same event but from difference visual perspectives. Before a coffee machine can "drip" it must experience "percolation" of the water through the coffee.

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[nq:1]Not surprising since it is a French word :-) Maybe it needs an acute over the first e. Let's see now, my Mac can probably handle it: cafétière. Looks strange.[/nq]
It should look strange: there is no accent on the first e. The word is "cafetière".

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[nq:2]As an aside, the coffee plunger is known in Britain ... the last syllable, somewhat like the French would say it.[/nq]
[nq:1]Not surprising since it is a French word :-)[/nq]
Right. But we don't always follow their lead in such matters.
Maybe it needs an acute
[nq:1]over the first e. Let's see now, my Mac can probably handle it: cafétière. Looks strange.[/nq]
Perhaps because it's not how the French do it? I had to look it up, though.
[nq:1]Hi, Stephen. What part of Australia are you in? I lived many years in Brisbane and Sydney.[/nq]
Lived in Sydney most of my life before moving to the northern rivers area of NSW some nine years ago. Lennox Head is about an hour and a half south of the Tweed; close to Byron Bay.
[nq:1]I'm a coffee addict myself. In Sydney, a connoisseur turned my on to Sega Fredo coffee and, sure enough, it's ... Point Road with some name like Zanzibar or other African word. (Near the post office). They roast their own. Superb![/nq]
Don't think I've been there. But it's not hard tpo find good coffee anywhere in Australia these days. We've become quite sophisticated, taught by the Italians.
[nq:1]In Auckland there is another place that roasts their own and it's just great. Never expect a good coffee in ... a bad one in France. There is a place in St Tropez, Le Club55, that gets it direct from ***.[/nq]
I was transported at the very idea.
[nq:1]Latvia has some great coffee places. Staburags in Riga for example. (Surely one of the best eating joints in the ... i ignore it. Just heat milk in the cup in the microwave while the espresso machine is doing its thing.).[/nq]
Hmmm....nevr tried that. Thanks for the idea.
[nq:1]Oh and the on-topic stuff? I think "percolator" and "drip" describe the same event but from difference visual perspectives. Before a coffee machine can "drip" it must experience "percolation" of the water through the coffee.[/nq]
They used to offer me that pretty much exclusively in the US. I was surprised that a country known for its love of coffee had not discovered espresso and put percolators aside.
You can find espresso there, but you have to look a little harder.

Stephen
Lennox Head, Australia

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I'd think this would mean more coffee is needed per pot for the 'once through' drip method. Is that correct?
JOE

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[nq:1]I'd think this would mean more coffee is needed per pot for the 'once through' drip method. Is that correct?[/nq]
Or just a finer grind.

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[nq:1]I just purchased a new Krups Automatic Drip Thermal model 198, because I drink a good deal of coffee and ... am amazed at the technology. There =is truth in advertising and the contraption actually lives up to the retaili=ng claims.[/nq]
The best way to make coffee is to heat water to 95=B0C. While holding the
water at that temperature, add finely ground coffee and stir for 5 minutes.
Filter out the grounds (either fine metal, unbleached cloth or paper). This process is a classical extraction process which is well understood by chemical engineers. The problem is how to do it using an inexpensive,
home appliance. So far, nothing has worked well, which is why new coffee
makers continue to appear on the market.
GFH

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[nq:2]I just purchased a new Krups Automatic Drip Thermal model ... and the contraption actually lives up to the retailing claims.[/nq]
[nq:1]The best way to make coffee is to heat water to 95°C. While holding the water at that temperature, add ... appliance. So far, nothing has worked well, which is why new coffee makers continue to appear on the market. GFH[/nq]
Isn't that pretty much what a plunger does?

Stephen
Lennox Head, Australia

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[nq:2]The best way to make coffee is to heat water ... why new coffee makers continue to appear on the market.[/nq]
[nq:1]Isn't that pretty much what a plunger does?[/nq]
No question, that is the idea. But does it work? How hot is the water after 5 minutes? This solvent extraction process depends on water close to, but not actually, boiling. And the filtering after the brewing time is generally not the best. But, you are correct the plunger system is very close to the best process. From a consumer point of view, it requires too much attention and work to be really popular.
GFH

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