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Anonymous Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

past perfect after past simple

Hello teacher

I wanted to order something on the internet. I had asked for a new password when i realised that i had lost it. But i haven't yet received the new password.

If I write that does that mean that first I lost my password then realised it and asked for a new one.
What is hard to understand is that" realised" past simple comes first , i think "had asked " should come before as it is past perfect.

Thanks for answering
  

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I had asked for a new password when I realised that I had forgotten it. But I haven't yet received the new password. The sequence of actions is 1) forgetting the password 2) realizing the forgetting and because of this, asking for a new one (these are close in time) 3) not receiving the new password

  • I had asked for a new password when I realised that I had forgotten it.
  • But I haven't yet received the new password.
  • The sequence of actions is 1) forgetting the password 2) realizing the forgetting and because of this, asking for a new one (these are close in time) 3) not receiving the new password
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I had asked for a new password when I realised that I had forgotten it. But I haven't yet received the new password.

The sequence of actions is
1) forgetting the password
2) realizing the forgetting and
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Hi,
Use past simple instead of past perfect for "asking for a new password", then your sentence reads fine.

I asked for a new password when I realized that I had forgot it.
Hamid
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That is what I thought

imagine the same scenario but told in present

I want to order something on the internet. But I realise that I ve lost my password and ask for a new one but......
OR
I want to order something on the internet.But I realise that I ve lost my password and I've asked for a new one but..
OR
I want to order something on the internet. But I realised
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AlpheccaStarsI had asked for a new password when I realised that I had forgotten it.
a new password (an antecedent of the pronoun it), which is non-existent when having been asked for, couldn't have been forgotten, so how come that one had forgotten something what didn't exist at the moment of having forgotten it.
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hrsaneiI asked for a new password when I realized that I had forgot it.
... I had forgotten it.
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Both forgot and forgotten are correct in American English as past participle of "forget". However, the use of "forgot" as a past participle in BrE is archaic and poetic.
Hamid
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hrsaneiBoth forgot and forgotten are correct in American English as past participle of "forget".
Sorry; I hadn't realised that.
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fivejedjonSorry; I hadn't realised that.
Have you never sung this?

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
and never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
and auld lang syne?
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Yes, but that was written (A) in 1788 (b) by a Scot and (c) as part of a poem. That poem does not mean that I now think of myself as approaching auld age. 'Forgot' is not the past participle of FORGET in modern BrE.
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fivejedjon'Forgot' is not the past participle of FORGET in modern BrE.
Good to know. I was taught in no uncertain terms that "gotten" and "forgotten" were American and "got" and "forgot" were the corresponding British past participles. End of story.

Go figure.

CJ

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