Past participle = the passive voice of the present participle?

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Are the past participle and the passive of the present participle simply equal by form or are they the exact same thing? Are there any particular uses in which one cannot be used while the other can?

Mister Micawber · Accepted Answer

curiousofgrammar the passive of the present participle

What is that? Can you give an example?

CalifJim · Answer

curiousofgrammar
Are the past participle and the passive of the present participle simply equal by form or are they the exact same thing? Are there any particular uses in which one cannot be used while the other can?

Hmm. Participles don't have passives.

There are two participles for the verb 'take', for example: the present participle (taking) and the past participle (taken). Some grammarians feel that these are the wrong names and that the names should be the active participle (taking) and the passive participle (taken). Maybe that's the source of your confusion.

The present ("active") participle can be used with the auxiliary be to form continuous tenses.

he takes > he is taking

The past ("passive") participle can be used with the auxiliary be to form the passive voice of the tenses.

he takes > he is taken

In addition, the past participle is used with the auxiliary have to form the perfect tenses.

he takes > he has taken

[The present participle is not used with auxiliary have. There is no 'have taking' in English.]

CJ

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