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Past actions with present verbs ?!?

Hello ...
firstly, as usual, thank you sooo much for answering so kindly to my previous message :-)
ok, another quest for you all ... this time, it's very simple ...

I need to know if it's correct, in english, to use verbs in this way :
- In 1997, Luke, CREATES a new company named ... blah blah blah - In 1995 that company, OBTAINS new partnerships ... blah blah blah - In 1980 his sister Sarah, LEAVES the company .. blah blah blah - In 1940, Miky STARTS to learn english.. blah blah blah

I think you got what I mean ... is it correct to use "PRESENT" verb, with past dates ?
can I speak about past actions ( happened in precise dates ... in precise years ... ), using the PRESENT VERBS ?
should I use past forms insteads ? like :
- In 1997, Luke, CREATED a new company named ... blah blah blah - In 1995 that company, OBTAINED new partnerships ... blah blah blah - In 1980 his sister Sarah, LEFT the company .. blah blah blah - In 1940, Miky STARTED to learn english .. blah blah blah
thank you very much, again, and again, and again ;-)
  

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[nq:1]Hello ... firstly, as usual, thank you sooo much for answering so kindly to my previous message :-) ok, another ... to learn english ..

  • [nq:1]Hello ...
  • firstly, as usual, thank you sooo much for answering so kindly to my previous message :-) ok, another ...
  • to learn english ..
  • blah blah blah thank you very much, again, and again, and again ;-)[/nq] Yes, it's perfectly all right to use the "historic present" (or "historical present") tense in this way.
  • It's commonly used to give more emphasis or sense of dynamism than a simple past tense provides.
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[nq:1]Hello ... firstly, as usual, thank you sooo much for answering so kindly to my previous message :-) ok, another ... to learn english .. blah blah blah thank you very much, again, and again, and again ;-)[/nq]
Yes, it's perfectly all right to use the "historic present" (or "historical present") tense in this way. It's commonly used to give more emphasis or sense of dynamism than a simple
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[nq:2]Hello ... firstly, as usual, thank you sooo much for ... thank you very much, again, and again, and again ;-)[/nq]
[nq:1]Yes, it's perfectly all right to use the "historic present" (or "historical present") tense in this way. It's commonly used to give more emphasis or sense of dynamism than a simple past tense provides.[/nq]
Yes but it is far less common than the past tense and can
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[nq:2]Yes, it's perfectly all right to use the "historic present" ... or sense of dynamism than a simple past tense provides.[/nq]
[nq:1]Yes but it is far less common than the past tense and can only really be used if 'narrating a ... happens. I'd avoid it personally and certainly wouldn't recommend this to a learner as it will complicater their life somewhat.[/nq]
Then you certainly would
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[nq:2]Yes but it is far less common than the past ... to a learner as it will complicater their life somewhat.[/nq]
[nq:1]Then you certainly wouldn't recommend they listen to the English evening news programmes. "After the break: the Druids greet the Midsummer dawn.."[/nq]
Certainly not if it is Sky News, they can't even spell the title inserts correctly ;-)
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[nq:2]Yes, it's perfectly all right to use the "historic present" ... or sense of dynamism than a simple past tense provides.[/nq]
[nq:1]Yes but it is far less common than the past tense and can only really be used if 'narrating a timeline' so that the speaker and listener are situated in the present as each event happens.[/nq]
Of course, it's used all the time when talking about literatur
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[nq:2]Yes but it is far less common than the past ... listener are situated in the present as each event happens.[/nq]
[nq:1]Of course, it's used all the time when talking about literature or philosophy, as "In 'Troy Town', Q pokes gentle ... that morality derives as surely from the immanent *** of Nature as from the external Judaeo-Christian *** of Final Judgement".[/nq]
I think that is s
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[nq:2]Of course, it's used all the time when talking about ... Nature as from the external Judaeo-Christian *** of Final Judgement".[/nq]
[nq:1]I think that is slightly dfifferent. In your example something that continues to exist is being spoken about: morality and ... the case with the derivation of morality which, according to the philospher, continues to derive from an immanent *** etc.[/n

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