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New2grammar Posted 19 years ago
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passive verbs are adjectives

0A car that is 01font00smashed02font00 is called 01font00smashed car02font00.02br
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00Water that is 01font00bottled02font00 is called 01font00bottled water02font02br
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00A knot on a rope that is 01font00hand tied02font00 is called 01font00hand-tied knot02font00.02br
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00So in passive contruction, the passive verb (eg: smashed, bottled) can be used as an adjective to describe the noun and thus form a compound noun. Is this correct most of the time?02br
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0 01font00When an adjective is formed from a verb the regular form is identical to the participal.02br
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0 Bokeh, could you please elaborate? I don't quite understand what you mean. 0-
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0 Hi N2G02br
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00I don't know if it's true most of the time. It's not always true, that's for sure. You don't say:02br
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01i00I didn't like the met people.02i02br
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00There's not much logic to English, even though the grammatical structure is the simplest I know.05002br
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0Correct me if I am wrong,02br
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00You would say,02br
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00The car is smashed. => passive , The smashed car is...02br
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00You won't say.02br
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00The people are met by me. => it's passive but doesn't make sense, therefore the compound noun also illogical, The met people 02br
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01cite10New2grammar12cite10Bokeh, could you please elaborate? I don't quite understand what you mean.12blockquote
10I mean that both the passive and the adjective derived from a verb are normally the participal.0-
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0Thanks Bokeh. I agree with you.0-
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00So in passive contruction, the passive verb (eg: smashed, bottled) can be used as an adjective12blockquote
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00 It seems to me that what you have illustrated is that adjectives can be used attributively (01i00The water is bottled02i00) and descriptively (01i00This is bottled water02i00
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01cite10CalifJim12cite10Your examples show that at least some past participles (11i10smashed,12i10 11i10bottled12i10, etc.) can function as adjectives, but that's not always possible.12blockquote
10I guess he's right that there is a connection with the passive voice parti
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Read "The Lexical Aproach" (Michael Lewis) Chapter 8 p.136

How passive structures are viewed has a profound impact on the teaching and acquiring of such forms. The simple fact that you are making this consideration about the passive shows you are taking a healthy analytical approach to the language. The issue, therefore, is not having your question answered but rather the extent to which

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