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Moon7296 Posted 15 years ago
Grammar

Passive sentences?/ be filled/covered with

1. He was elected chairman by us.

2. I was made happy by the song.

3. He was called Little Joe (by us).



We call sentences like #1,2 & 3 passive sentences.



What about this?



4. Ø be surprised at~ she is/was surprised at the news.

5. Ø be satisfied with~ Her boss is/was satisfied with her good job.
6. Ø be filled with~ The cup is/was filled with water.

7. Ø be covered with~ The roof are/was covered with snow.


8. Ø be crowded with~ Her room is/was crowded withfurniture.



Do you also call these passive sentences? (These have no by but other prepositions such as 'at' and 'with')

  

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They are all in the realm of adjective status. All of 4-8 (except #7) will accept 'very' inserted before the word in question ('be very surprised at', etc). #7 might better be included among the 'semi-passives': The roof is covered with snow = Snow covers the roof.

  • They are all in the realm of adjective status.
  • All of 4-8 (except #7) will accept 'very' inserted before the word in question ('be very surprised at', etc).
  • #7 might better be included among the 'semi-passives': The roof is covered with snow = Snow covers the roof.
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They are all in the realm of adjective status. All of 4-8 (except #7) will accept 'very' inserted before the word in question ('be very surprised at', etc).

#7 might better be included among the 'semi-passives': The roof is covered with snow = Snow covers the roof.
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Q1) What is 'semi-passives' and how is it different from just passives?

Q2) #7 has the active form(Snow covers the roof), so is it the reason why it might better be included among 'semi-passives'?

Q3) It looks like #5 and #6 have their active forms: Her good job satisfies her boss, Water fills the cup.

Then, aren't #5 and #6 the same as #7?

Q4) My di
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1 & 2 -- 'Semi-passives are the ones that are ambiguous between passive voice and linking verb + predicate adjective. They have active analogues ('Snow covers the roof'), but the 'adjective' can be modified: The roof is quite covered with snow.

3-- It is in many ways the grammarian's decision. How involved is the agent, really, in the sentence?

4-- By defin
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Thank you very much Micawber.

I'm sorry but could you please explain what 'How involved is the agent, really, in the sentence?' means?
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How important/significant is the agent? How easily is the agent even conceived? If I come home and say, 'I'm very tired!', I would be hard-pressed to call that passive voice instead of 'be' + adjective, since the agent is vague and unimportant to the utterance – the agent is probably 'work', but that is very general, very obvious and not a significant contribution to understanding the int

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