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Tenacious Learner Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

Paraphrase for 'until'

Hi teachers,
Would the 'up to the time of' be an appropriate paraphrase for 'until'?
The next day, he didn't get up until noon.

Thanks in advance.
  

Top answer

No. Noon IS a time, so just adding it in is redundant and not a restatement.

— UltimatePedant

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  • Noon IS a time, so just adding it in is redundant and not a restatement.
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No. Noon IS a time, so just adding it in is redundant and not a restatement.
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Tenacious LearnerWould the 'up to the time of' be an appropriate paraphrase for 'until'? The next day, he didn't get up until noon.
'until' is such a basic word that it is difficult to paraphrase it. not get up up to the time of noon doesn't seem a helpful phrase to present to students, and not get up up to noon isn't really any better.
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CalifJimuntil' is such a basic word that it is difficult to paraphrase it.
Hi Jim,
Thanks! You are right, the definitions or paraphrases that I found in dictionaries aren't very helpful.
CalifJimA total rephrasing, is, of course, possible, but I don't think you're interested in that.
Thanks for the example, but as you've
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UltimatePedantNo. Noon IS a time, so just adding it in is redundant and not a restatement.
Hi,
OK. Thanks for your advice.

TL
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Tenacious LearnerDoes 'up to' sound natural in that sentence?
I thought I had already covered this. The two 'up's in a row won't do at all. not get up up to noon.

CJ
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CalifJimI thought I had already covered this. The two 'up's in a row won't do at all. not get up up to noon.
Hi Jim,
Sorry! Now I get it! Thanks.

TL
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It can be used but would be seen as unnecessarily wordy.

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