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Origin & earliest usage of "Plonker" (eg. "Rodney you Plonker")

Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, first name "John" married in Godalming, Surrey, on 5th December 1596 a young lady, Elizabeth PLONKER. (Yes, the jokes are predictable..)

The LDS website shows the PLONKER surname disappearing about mid-1600s...

Does anyone have a view on the earliest occurrence of "PLONKER" in the modern, "Only Fools & Horses" sense of "Rodney you PLONKER, or what the origin was ???
NB For non-UK readers... "Only Fools & Horses" was a TV programme...

Yours aye
TIA
Rab
  

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[nq:1]Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, first name "John" married in Godalming, Surrey, on ... [/nq] The earliest quote for that sense in the supplement to OED1 is as recent as 1966. There's a 19th-century dialect meaning, though, for something large and substantial, and a quote from 1861 applies it to a thick piece of cloth: that might be the source.

  • [nq:1]Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, first name "John" married in Godalming, Surrey, on ...
  • [/nq] The earliest quote for that sense in the supplement to OED1 is as recent as 1966.
  • There's a 19th-century dialect meaning, though, for something large and substantial, and a quote from 1861 applies it to a thick piece of cloth: that might be the source.
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[nq:1]Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, first name "John" married in Godalming, Surrey, on ... of "PLONKER" in the modern, "Only Fools & Horses" sense of "Rodney you PLONKER, or what the origin was ???[/nq]
The earliest quote for that sense in the supplement to OED1 is as recent as 1966.
There's a 19th-century dialect meaning, though, for somethi
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[nq:1]Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, first name "John" married in Godalming, Surrey, on ... of "PLONKER" in the modern, "Only Fools & Horses" sense of "Rodney you PLONKER, or what the origin was ???[/nq]
I came across the word referring to a condom (probably used) but I don't know where the reference was - almost certainly post WWII.

Of c
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[nq:1]On 31 Aug 2005, Rab C Nesbitt wrote[/nq]
[nq:2]Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor ... of "Rodney you PLONKER, or what the origin was ???[/nq]
[nq:1]The earliest quote for that sense in the supplement to OED1 is as recent as 1966. There's a 19th-century dialect meaning, though, for something large and substantial, and a quote from 1861 applies it to a
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[nq:2]On 31 Aug 2005, Rab C Nesbitt wrote The earliest ... a thick piece of cloth: that might be the source.[/nq]
[nq:1]I get the impression that comedies like to have catch-phrase expletives that sound obscene but are actually too meaningless to attract complaints - the "Naff" of Porridge and "****" of Father Ted. Phil C.[/nq]
Gosh: "Naff" is fairly old, I think...
* naff - Origin unk
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[nq:2]On 31 Aug 2005, Rab C Nesbitt wrote[/nq]
[nq:1]I get the impression that comedies like to have catch-phrase expletives that sound obscene but are actually too meaningless to attract complaints - the "Naff" of Porridge and "****" of Father Ted. Phil C.[/nq]
"****" is a common variant of "" in Ireland. It is a bit less vulgar but still may cause offence. Its use predates Father Ted by
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[nq:2]I get the impression that comedies like to have catch-phrase ... of Porridge and "****" of Father Ted. Phil C.[/nq]
[nq:1]"****" is a common variant of "" in Ireland.[/nq]
As is "****" as in "The fookin' t'ing won't work now, will it."
[nq:1]It is a bit less vulgar but still may cause offence. Its use predates Father Ted by a long way. ... called "Feckenham", English people tend
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[nq:2]I get the impression that comedies like to have catch-phrase ... - the "Naff" of Porridge and "****" of Father Ted.[/nq]
[nq:1]"****" is a common variant of "" in Ireland. It is a bit less vulgar but still may cause offence. ... called "Feckenham", English people tend to think it an unremarkable name but my father, who is Irish, finds it hilarious.[/nq]
But it's pronounced Faykenham,
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At 13:48:21 on Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Seán O'Leathlóbhair (Email Removed) wrote in
[nq:1]"****" is a common variant of "" in Ireland. It is a bit less vulgar but still may cause offence. ... called "Feckenham", English people tend to think it an unremarkable name but my father, who is Irish, finds it hilarious.[/nq]
I used to giggle over French placenames such as Caen and St Lot, until I realis
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[nq:1]Researching my family history I recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, first name "John" married in Godalming, Surrey, on ... of "PLONKER" in the modern, "Only Fools & Horses" sense of "Rodney you PLONKER, or what the origin was ???[/nq]
OED records "plonk" as a term for the lowest rank in the RAF:

" 1941 New Statesman 30 Aug. 218/3 A.C. Plonk-Lowest in the R.A.F., aircra
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And the "smeg" of Red Dwarf. And the "fug" of "Naked and the Dead" (cue Dorothy Parker anecdotes).
[nq:2]"****" is a common variant of "" in Ireland.[/nq]
[nq:1]As is "****" as in "The fookin' t'ing won't work now, will it."[/nq]
Used in the UK in the written form as a straight euphemism for "***". I presume by people who rhyme "****" with RP "book" as I can't imagine "

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