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"Oriental" is a good word.
I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people of the Mongoloid race. None of the words which are meant to replace this now non-PC word do the trick. "Asian" can mean people from India. East Asians can mean Indonesians. "Mongoloid" is even more non-PC than "Oriental". And BTW "Oriental" isn't in the least bit demeaning or insulting it's become non-PC only because it's been around for so long.
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Rushtown filted: [nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people ... r
- Rushtown filted: [nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos.
- It refers to people ...
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Rushtown filted:
[nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people ... BTW "Oriental" isn't in the least bit demeaning or insulting it's become non-PC only because it's been around for so long.[/nq]
Problem with your suggestion is that some people will use it to mean "Arab" or "Iranian"...an "Oriental rug" generall
[nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people ... BTW "Oriental" isn't in the least bit demeaning or insulting it's become non-PC only because it's been around for so long.[/nq]
Problem with your suggestion is that some people will use it to mean "Arab" or "Iranian"...an "Oriental rug" generall
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Context matters.
And there's probably a "Pondian" difference. My guess is you're right pondian, where, because of history and geography, "oriental" often means "Arabic." Not over here.
And there's probably a "Pondian" difference. My guess is you're right pondian, where, because of history and geography, "oriental" often means "Arabic." Not over here.
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[nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people of the Mongoloid race.[/nq]
It did until recently, perhaps, but 'twas not always so.
[nq:1]None of the words which are meant to replace this now non-PC word do the trick. "Asian" can mean people ... BTW "Oriental" isn't in the least bit demeaning or insulting it's b
It did until recently, perhaps, but 'twas not always so.
[nq:1]None of the words which are meant to replace this now non-PC word do the trick. "Asian" can mean people ... BTW "Oriental" isn't in the least bit demeaning or insulting it's b
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[nq:1]. . . there's probably a "Pondian" difference. My guess is you're rightpondian, where, because of history and geography, "oriental" often means "Arabic." Not over here.[/nq]
Cf. two British usages (now extinct?) expressing dislike of foreigners:
1. Etymology of wog, supposedly Wily Oriental Gentleman.
2. Traditional dictum: "Wogs begin at Calais" (commonestferry boat harbour for
Cf. two British usages (now extinct?) expressing dislike of foreigners:
1. Etymology of wog, supposedly Wily Oriental Gentleman.
2. Traditional dictum: "Wogs begin at Calais" (commonestferry boat harbour for
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[nq:2]Problem with your suggestion is that some people will use it to mean "Arab" or "Iranian"...an "Oriental rug" generally isn't one made in Shanghai..r[/nq]
[nq:1]Context matters. And there's probably a "Pondian" difference. My guess is you're right pondian, where, because of history and geography, "oriental" often means "Arabic." Not over here.[/nq]
I'm right-pondian (UK) and don't rem
[nq:1]Context matters. And there's probably a "Pondian" difference. My guess is you're right pondian, where, because of history and geography, "oriental" often means "Arabic." Not over here.[/nq]
I'm right-pondian (UK) and don't rem
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[nq:1]Cf. two British usages (now extinct?) expressing dislike of foreigners: 1. Etymology of wog, supposedly Wily Oriental Gentleman.[/nq]
I had always thought that 'wog' came from 'golliwog' (from the Uptons' stories and illustrations). I had never heard of this possible 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' etymology.
I wonder which of these two possible etymologies is the correct one.
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I had always thought that 'wog' came from 'golliwog' (from the Uptons' stories and illustrations). I had never heard of this possible 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' etymology.
I wonder which of these two possible etymologies is the correct one.
Chr
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[nq:2]Cf. two British usages (now extinct?) expressing dislike of foreigners: 1. Etymology of wog, supposedly Wily Oriental Gentleman.[/nq]
[nq:1]I had always thought that 'wog' came from 'golliwog' (from the Uptons' stories and illustrations). I had never heard of this possible 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' etymology.[/nq]
I knew it as Western Oriental Gentleman, but this seems extremely unli
[nq:1]I had always thought that 'wog' came from 'golliwog' (from the Uptons' stories and illustrations). I had never heard of this possible 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' etymology.[/nq]
I knew it as Western Oriental Gentleman, but this seems extremely unli
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(Email Removed) (Rushtown) wrote on 04 Jan 2004:
[nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people ... to replace this now non-PC word do the trick. "Asian" can mean people from India. East Asians can mean Indonesians.[/nq]
From over here in Far East Asia, Indonesia looks a lot like South or Southeast Asia.
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[nq:1]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but not Indonesians, and maybe not Filipinos. It refers to people ... to replace this now non-PC word do the trick. "Asian" can mean people from India. East Asians can mean Indonesians.[/nq]
From over here in Far East Asia, Indonesia looks a lot like South or Southeast Asia.
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[nq:2]I understand the word "Oriental" to mean East Asians, but ... to people of the Mongoloid race. (...snipped almost at random...)[/nq]
[nq:1]I agree that none of the replacement words quite 'covers all the bases', as you Americans say. At one time, ... Vancouver, but including North Africa as far south as somewhere as yet undiscovered by native anglophones in those days [/nq]
Having be
[nq:1]I agree that none of the replacement words quite 'covers all the bases', as you Americans say. At one time, ... Vancouver, but including North Africa as far south as somewhere as yet undiscovered by native anglophones in those days [/nq]
Having be
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[nq:1]2. Traditional dictum: "Wogs begin at Calais" [/nq]
...and damme, sir, they stop at nothing!
Mike.
...and damme, sir, they stop at nothing!
Mike.
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