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open conditional
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00 What is an open conditional? Is that another name for first conditional or what? Does that mean the element of hypothetical doesn't exist in an open conditional or can it accommodate both hypothetical and real? 02 br
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00 But I see cases where the verb or auxiliary verb 'did' or 'did not' is used in an 'if' clause and many seem to consider them as being open, why is that? 02 br
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00 I would do this if 01 u 00 you did or did not do 02 u 00 this. 02 br
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00 Thank you. 0-
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00 What is an open conditional? Is that another name for first conditional or what? Does that mean the element of hypothetical doesn't exist in an open conditional or can it accommodate both hypothetical and real? 02 br
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00 But I see cases where the verb or auxiliary verb 'did' or 'did not' is used in an 'if' clause and many seem to consider them as being open, why is that? 02 br
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00 I would do this if 01 u 00 you did or did not do 02 u 00 this. 02 br
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00 Thank you. 0-
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02 br 00 In an 01 b 00 open conditional 02 b 00 (= 1st conditional), the fulfillment of the condition is seen as a realistic possibility. 0-
- 02 br 00 In an 01 b 00 open conditional 02 b 00 (= 1st conditional), the fulfillment of the condition is seen as a realistic possibility.
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00 In an 01 b 00 open conditional 02 b 00 (= 1st conditional), the fulfillment of the condition is seen as a realistic possibility. This is in contradistinction to a 01 b 00 counterfactual 02 b 00 . 0-
00 In an 01 b 00 open conditional 02 b 00 (= 1st conditional), the fulfillment of the condition is seen as a realistic possibility. This is in contradistinction to a 01 b 00 counterfactual 02 b 00 . 0-
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0 Thank you, Mr M. 02 br
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00 I have seen the kind of structure like the one below with the 'did' or 'did not' in the 'if' clause as an example of the second conditional? Can it be the subjunctive too -- that is, a counterfactual or hypothetical? I think the subjunctive is the one that denotes 01 u 00 both or either 02 u 00 of countfactual and hypothetical s
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00 I have seen the kind of structure like the one below with the 'did' or 'did not' in the 'if' clause as an example of the second conditional? Can it be the subjunctive too -- that is, a counterfactual or hypothetical? I think the subjunctive is the one that denotes 01 u 00 both or either 02 u 00 of countfactual and hypothetical s
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0 If you want to use the words "open" and "closed" with conditional sentences, then I might explain those two words this way: 02 br
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00 Type 1: very open -- the possibility of the condition being fulfilled is seen as real 02 br
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00 Type 2: only slightly open -- the possibility of the condition being fulfilled is seen as unlikely, strictly theoretical or
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00 Type 1: very open -- the possibility of the condition being fulfilled is seen as real 02 br
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00 Type 2: only slightly open -- the possibility of the condition being fulfilled is seen as unlikely, strictly theoretical or
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0 I'm not sure that there is a universally accepted definition of 01 i 00 open conditional 02 i 00 . 02 br
00 Nevertheless, I've seen it used in opposition to the term 01 i 00 hypothetical conditional 02 i 00 . 02 br
00 A hypothetical conditional is either the so-called Type 2 conditional: 02 br
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00 Nevertheless, I've seen it used in opposition to the term 01 i 00 hypothetical conditional 02 i 00 . 02 br
00 A hypothetical conditional is either the so-called Type 2 conditional: 02 br
01 i 00 If it rained, we would need
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Hello Jim,
Three questions:
1. Do you use the expression, open conditional, yourself?
2. Do you consider the adjective, open, to refer to the epistemic stance of the question about whether or not the condition has been, is being, or will be met, or to the nature of the posited logical entailment between the condition and the consequence, or to something else altogether?
Three questions:
1. Do you use the expression, open conditional, yourself?
2. Do you consider the adjective, open, to refer to the epistemic stance of the question about whether or not the condition has been, is being, or will be met, or to the nature of the posited logical entailment between the condition and the consequence, or to something else altogether?
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