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Taka Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

one/ones

(1) More and more people have cellular phones, and it seems that most young people have one.
(2)
More and more people have cellular phones, and it seems that most young people have ones.

Are they both OK? Or is one is better than the other? If so, then why is it better?
  

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#1 is correct.

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Hi Taka

As SG wrote, (1) is correct.
Sentence (2) would be acceptable with the word 'them' instead of 'ones':
More and more people have cellular phones, and it seems that most young people have them.

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Yankee,

A little while ago, I asked the same kind of question about 'singular/plural':



Then, I thought I came to the simple conclusion that, in principle, the singular corresponds to the singular, and the plural to the plural.

However, as for the cell phone sentence, I also knew from my experience that 'one' was better than 'ones'; the problem is, I don't know
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Hi Taka

When 'ones' is used, it is generally preceded by 'the'. In other words, 'the ones' is used to refer to specific, individual things.

These phones are cheap. The ones on display over there are more expensive.

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YankeeHi Taka

When 'ones' is used, it is generally preceded by 'the'. In other words, 'the ones' is used to refer to specific, individual things.

These phones are cheap. The ones on display over there are more expensive.

???

Are you sure, Yankee?

Then, what about this?

The analysis of ch
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Hi Taka

The examples you gave in you last post are much more specific than what you wrote in your first post in sentence (2). And that was the main point of what I was trying to get across to you. Specificity. In your original sentence (2), you tried to use 'ones' much too generally. In your last post, the word 'ones' is defined and narrowed down to specific types. Usi
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I think I'd agree with Yankee; there do seem to be two kinds of "one", in this usage (if we exclude cases where "one" = "person"):

1. "I have a question." "I have one too."

— "one" stands for "one of those", i.e. "a member of the class {question}".

Cf.

2. "There's my house." "Is it the one with the red door?"

— "one" refers specifically to "house".
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MrPedanticI think I'd agree with Yankee; there do seem to be two kinds of "one"

Quite honestly, I was not familiar with the ones-only-for-the-specific theory.

Well, MrP. Then, what is the cognitive difference in understanding these two below?

(1)The analysis of church services has shown that the sociocultural system creates defin
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Hi Taka

I'd like to go back to your original sentences.

In sentence (1), the word 'one' means 'one of these things' or 'one of these devices'.
(these things/devices = cellular phones in general)

You can also write the sentence that way without a grammatical problem:
(1) More and more peo
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TakaWell, MrP. Then, what is the cognitive difference in understanding these two below?

(1)The analysis of church services has shown that the sociocultural system creates definitions of situations, not ones which mechanically determine the behavior of speakers, but ones which are systematically related

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