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MUSCOVITE Posted 13 years ago
Vocabulary

one who comes from Northern Ireland

Hi,

(1) I guess it is ok to say,
He is North Korean
or
She is South Korean?

(2) If someone comes from Ireland (the Republic of Ireland)
we can just say, They are Irish.

On the other hand, if we want to emphasize that an Irishman comes particularly from Northern Ireland, how to say that in English?
"He is a Northern Irishman"
"He is (sic) Northern Irish "


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(1) I guess it is ok to say, He is North Korean or She is South Korean ? Yes (2) If someone comes from Ireland (the Republic of Ireland) we can just say, They are Irish . On the other hand, if we want to emphasize that an Irishman comes particularly from Northern Ireland, how to say that in English?

  • (1) I guess it is ok to say, He is North Korean or She is South Korean ?
  • Yes (2) If someone comes from Ireland (the Republic of Ireland) we can just say, They are Irish .
  • On the other hand, if we want to emphasize that an Irishman comes particularly from Northern Ireland, how to say that in English?
  • "He is a Northern Irishman" No.
  • "He is (sic) Northern Irish " Yes.
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(1) I guess it is ok to say,
He is North Korean
or
She is South Korean?
Yes

(2) If someone comes from Ireland (the Republic of Ireland)
we can just say, They are Irish.

On the other hand, if we want to emphasize that an Irishman comes particularly from Northern Ireland, how to say that in English
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression is that people from Northern Ireland are more proud of being Irish than they are of being British, and that they describe themselves as 'Irish' unless there's a good reason to make it known they're not from the Republic — in which case they say 'I'm from Northern Ireland'.

(That's the longest sentence I've written for a long time.)
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In the US no distinction is made between Koreans, Vietnamese, or Yemeni who are originally from North or South Korea, Vietnam, or Yemen, respectively. They are simply Koreans, Vietnamese, or Yemeni. However - and this can be a sensitive issue - there is a definite distinction between people originally from Northern Ireland and from Ireland itself. In the US, the word "Irish" means someone orig
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Gee, I'm from Ulster and I didn't know the term 'Scotch-Irish' was used like that in the US..

Anyway, nowadays I usually just say I'm Canadian.

Clive
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An0nymous In the US, the word "Irish" means someone originally from Ireland. Someone originally from N. Ireland is called "Scotch-Irish."
Maybe, but not among anyone I know. I would describe someone from, say, Belfast as "from Northern Ireland."
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I've lived and learnt:

Scotch-Irish (or Scots-Irish) Americans are the descendants of Presbyterian and other Protestant dissenters from the Irish province of Ulster who migrated to North America during the 18th and 19th centuries. Most of the Scotch-Irish were descended from Scottish and English families who colonized Ireland during the Plantation of Ulster in the 17th century.
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An American term then, perhaps

I lived in N. Ireland, and I don't recall ever hearing that.
II think I'd be somewhat offended to be called that. I don't want to be lumped in with the Scots. I'm Irish!.

Clive
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So you're not contradicting what I wrote, Clive?

Rover
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Mister MicawberI've lived and learnt:
On a very different note...

I thought you are a 100% AE speaker...
Why did you use the non-AE p.p. ("learnt", not "learned") here?
Just because the phrase "I've lived and learnt" is a cliche or something?
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MUSCOVITEWhy did you use the non-AE p.p. ("learnt", not "learned") here?Just because the phrase "I've lived and learnt" is a cliche or something?
Actually, the cliche is 'Live and learn!". No, I've just picked up the spelling because it is shorter and quicker; I don't always use it.

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