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Believer Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
one more question on subjunctive
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00 I was looking at the us.geocities.com website for its excellent help on subjunctive and have a question in regard to one set of sentences I found in the section called "The Past Tense." 02 br
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00 1. 01 u 00 Peter 02 u 00 said, " 01 u 00 I 02 u 01 i 01 font 00 lost 02 font 02 i 00 01 u 00 my 02 u 00 keys in the train 01 font 00 yesterday 02 font 00 " 02 br
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01 u 00 Peter 02 u 00 said that 01 u 00 he 02 u 01 font 00 01 i 00 had lost 02 i 02 font 00 01 u 00 his 02 u 00 keys in the train 01 font 00 the day before 02 font 00 . 02 br
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00 My question is "When you rewrite 'yesterday' into 'the day before', aren't you losing the time reference that was clearly existed with the word 'yesterday' and making murky the whole intent to trying to best duplicate the speech rendered?" 0-
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00 I was looking at the us.geocities.com website for its excellent help on subjunctive and have a question in regard to one set of sentences I found in the section called "The Past Tense." 02 br
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00 1. 01 u 00 Peter 02 u 00 said, " 01 u 00 I 02 u 01 i 01 font 00 lost 02 font 02 i 00 01 u 00 my 02 u 00 keys in the train 01 font 00 yesterday 02 font 00 " 02 br
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01 u 00 Peter 02 u 00 said that 01 u 00 he 02 u 01 font 00 01 i 00 had lost 02 i 02 font 00 01 u 00 his 02 u 00 keys in the train 01 font 00 the day before 02 font 00 . 02 br
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00 My question is "When you rewrite 'yesterday' into 'the day before', aren't you losing the time reference that was clearly existed with the word 'yesterday' and making murky the whole intent to trying to best duplicate the speech rendered?" 0-
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0 You're not losing anything, to my mind. Accept they mean the same. 0-
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0 Hi Believer, 02 br
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00 Imagine today is Friday, you are listening to messages on your answering machine and if any are for your flatmate you have to make note of them: 02 br
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00 Monday, 10:30 am:- " 01 i 00 Hi, it's John. I left my keys on the train yesterday and am hoping you might have a spare copy. Call me! 02 i 00 ". 02 br
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00 Imagine today is Friday, you are listening to messages on your answering machine and if any are for your flatmate you have to make note of them: 02 br
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00 Monday, 10:30 am:- " 01 i 00 Hi, it's John. I left my keys on the train yesterday and am hoping you might have a spare copy. Call me! 02 i 00 ". 02 br
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01 b 00 Marius went to Montreal the day before. 02 b 02 br
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00 Do you understand that sentence? No, you can't. You are now thinking: "The day before what?" 02 br
00 That means that everytime you say "the day before", it has to be clear what day it is, otherwise no one would understand you. So when you say "the day before" you are not
01 b 00 Marius went to Montreal the day before. 02 b 02 br
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00 Do you understand that sentence? No, you can't. You are now thinking: "The day before what?" 02 br
00 That means that everytime you say "the day before", it has to be clear what day it is, otherwise no one would understand you. So when you say "the day before" you are not
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0 You're not reading everything. 02 br
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00 It's very clear: 02 br
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00 The day before the day when he did the saying. 01 u 00 (Peter 02 u 00 said ...) 0-
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00 It's very clear: 02 br
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00 The day before the day when he did the saying. 01 u 00 (Peter 02 u 00 said ...) 0-
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01 cite 10 Believer 12 cite 10 Hi, 12 br
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10 I was looking at the us.geocities.com website for its excellent help on subjunctive and have a question in regard to one set of sentences I found in the section called "The Past Tense." 12 br
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10 1. 11 u 10 Peter 12 u 10 said, " 11 u 1
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0 Sorry. Let me make a correction. It should be "its excellent help on 01 u 00 reported speech 02 u 00 ," not on subjunctive and I found the section called "The Past Tense" in its help on 01 u 00 reported speech 02 u 00 . 0-
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