One for the New Yorkers

[nq:1]How is "Tribeca" pronounced? I ask as someone who has never been to the Big Apple.* * The third place today that I've had to admit not having visited. My traveller's credentials may soon be revoked if I'm not careful.[/nq]
TRY-BECK-uh

[nq:1]How is "Tribeca" pronounced?[/nq]
No true New Yorker would pronounce "Tribeca", because a true New Yorker knows that "Tribeca" is a sham, a joke, a scherzo, a monstrous invention of the Realtor(R) profession. The only proper way to refer to the area that is bogusly called "Tribeca" is the Lower West Side.

But when folks like Nitabach and other Visigoths (NTTAWWV) say "Tribeca" (

} How is "Tribeca" pronounced?
('tSaIn@,taUn)

R. J. Valentine

[nq:1]} How is "Tribeca" pronounced? ('tSaIn@,taUn)[/nq]
Nah, that's how "Little Italy" is pronounced.

[nq:2]How is "Tribeca" pronounced?[/nq]
[nq:1]No true New Yorker would pronounce "Tribeca", because a true New Yorker knows that "Tribeca" is a sham, a joke, ... worse, TriBeCa), they pronounce it /traI'bEk@/ (in non-rhotic BrE: "try-BECKer"). The name is, IKYN, derived from "triangle below Canal Street".[/nq]
Thanks. I'd assumed that it was /traI'bi:k@/, but wasn't certain.

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[nq:2]} How is "Tribeca" pronounced? ('tSaIn@,taUn)[/nq]
[nq:1]Nah, that's how "Little Italy" is pronounced.[/nq]
As opposed to in Baltimore, where the local Little Italy is more like /,lIl-'Itli/ or /,lIl-'I?li/ (or for some people the 'tt' in 'Little' might be realized as an alveolar flap) and you can spot an outsider when they use some pronunciation significantly different from those.

[nq:2]Nah, that's how "Little Italy" is pronounced.[/nq]
[nq:1]As opposed to in Baltimore, where the local Little Italy is more like /,lIl-'Itli/ or /,lIl-'I?li/ (or for some people ... realized as an alveolar flap) and you can spot an outsider when they use some pronunciation significantly different from those.[/nq]
Non-prestige New York accents traditionally have 'Italy' as (I?li), or at

[nq:2]As opposed to in Baltimore, where the local Little Italy ... outsider when they use some pronunciation significantly different from those.[/nq]
[nq:1]Non-prestige New York accents traditionally have 'Italy' as (I?li), or at least that's a widely-used pronunciation.[/nq]
I wasn't aware that New Yorkers came from the East End. How curious!

Andrew Gwilliam
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[nq:1]You're coming to Oregon then? I live about 30 miles from Hillsboro.[/nq]
How is it pronounced? I'd guess /'hIlz,bVroU/ (a little bit like 'Pillsbury').
[nq:1]First thing is the state name itself: Oar'-ih-gun (the 'u' is almost silent). Oar-ee-gahn is a definite no-no, that's what foreigners (anyone east of Idaho) say.[/nq]
People use 'ee'? In New York, etc., people tend to say /'

[nq:2]I'm back in the ol' US for ten days or ... but "Hillsboro" is a difficult one to get quite right.[/nq]
[nq:1]You're coming to Oregon then? I live about 30 miles from Hillsboro. If you like, I can send you several more place names from my forthcoming book: How to Mispronounce Oregon Place Names Like a Native .[/nq]
I'm flying into Seattle and then travelling down to Mt Rainier. But th