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Thfihe Posted 11 years ago
Grammar

ohn resented at the time when Betty seduced himself.

Hello,

I have already learned from respondents that the sentence A below is incorrect.

A. John resented when Betty seduced himself.

In this time, I'd like you to ask whether the sentence B is correct or not.

B John resented at the time when Betty seduced himself.

Thank you in advance.
  

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B John resented at the time when Betty seduced himself. It is incorrect and it makes little sense. To make it grammatical, I'd say something like: John felt resentment when Betty seduced himself .

  • B John resented at the time when Betty seduced himself.
  • It is incorrect and it makes little sense.
  • To make it grammatical, I'd say something like: John felt resentment when Betty seduced himself .
  • But it still looks nonsensical.
  • First of all, one cannot really seduce him/herself.
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thfiheIn this time, I'd like you to ask whether the sentence B is correct or not.B John resented at the time when Betty seduced himself.
It is incorrect and it makes little sense. To make it grammatical, I'd say something like:

John felt resentment when Betty seduced himself.

But it still looks nonsensical. First of all, one cannot rea
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B is equally wrong. "Betty seduced himself" is never going to be right. As I mentioned, "himself" appears to refer to Betty, which would be the wrong *** even if it were possible to seduce oneself. Additionally, "resented" cannot be intransitive.
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John [was resentful / felt resentment / resented it] when Betty seduced him.

"when" introduces a new clause. You can't use a "self" word to refer back to something not mentioned in the same clause.

John resented it | when Betty seduced him (John).
...^ .................... | ................................. ^...................
.......................... |
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Thank you. NNow I understand when-clauses cannot contain "himself".
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And thank you for telling my mistake of the usage of "resent".
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thfihewhen-clauses cannot contain "himself".
Not true. You have misunderstood something. Read my reply again, especially noting my second example diagram. Here's another example:

Betty screamed when Thomas injured himself.

That has "himself" in a when-clause.

CJ
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thfiheNNow I understand when-clauses cannot contain "himself".
That's not true. A "when" clause can contain "himself" if it refers back to someone mentioned within the clause. For example, "John gets annoyed when Dave contradicts himself" ("himself" = Dave).
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Note that if the subject in the when-clause is the same as the subject in the main clause, you can use the reflexive pronoun:

eg.
Jay yelled "ouch!" when he cut himself.
Mary felt happy when she looked at herself in the mirror.
The little boy smiled when he tied his shoelaces by himself.

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