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Angliholic Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

Of all the 12 students, John played most skillfully.

Of all the 12 students, John played most skillfully.

Among all the 12 students, John was the most skillful player.

Do both of the above sound right? Which sounds better to you? Thanks.
  

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Out of all twelve students, John was the most skillful payer. )

  • Out of all twelve students, John was the most skillful payer.
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Out of all twelve students, John was the most skillful payer.
(This is common in AmE.)
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To me this sentence sounds alright...

Among all the 12 students, John was the most skillful player.

Among and out of,any differences?
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VeradeOut of all twelve students, John was the most skillful payer. (This is common in AmE.)
Thanks, Vera.

To make sure, does the first sample--

Of all the 12 students, John played most skillfully--

sound wrong? It's a test question for kids here.
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"All twelve" is correct. All "the" twelve is not. Cheers!
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Verade"All twelve" is correct. All "the" twelve is not. Cheers!
Thanks, Vera.

But I still have a question. Do the following sound odd?

All the girls played skillfully.

All the twelve students played skillfully.

All the boys are very diligent.
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Only the middle one: it should be "All twelve students..."
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VeradeOnly the middle one: it should be "All twelve students..."
Thanks, Vera.

But what about the other two? They share a similar pattern with the middle one. Why does only the middle one sound odd while the other two doesn't?
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We don't usually use the article with numbers, but we do with "students" and the like--"the students."

However, that is not always the case. When referring to the apostles of Jesus we can say "the twelve," capitalized or not. It is an honorific in this case. There are probably others.
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AnonymousWe don't usually use the article with numbers, but we do with "students" and the like--"the students." However, that is not always the case. When referring to the apostles of Jesus we can say "the twelve," capitalized or not. It is an honorific in this case. There are probably others.
Thanks, Anonymous.

To make sure, do the following sound ri
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Of the 12 boys, John was the best... whatever the sentence was...

Of the six girls in my glass, Ellen is the tallest.

That construction is fine!

However "All the three girls" should be "All three [of the] girls..." (the "of the" is optional.)

All 12 boys are very diligent.

All of the 12 boys are very diligent.

NOT All the 12 boys...

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