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Notes from my recent travels

Weather forecasting Seattle style:
If you can see Mount Rainier, it's going to rain.
If you can't see Mount Rainier, it's already raining.

While listening to a pleasing rendition of "Unforgettable" in a lounge show, I found it interesting to note that "unforgettable" and "incredible" rhymed satisfactorily. I wondered how it would seem to hear the song sung with a British accent, where "unforgettable" and "incredible" would not rhyme so well.
There seemed to be some doubt about whether to call the stern-wheeler vessel we cruised on a ship or a boat. I think "boat" is preferable for a vessel that travels on a river, while "ship" seems right for an ocean-going vessel.

In olden times, steamboats plied the rivers; steamships, the oceans. I've heard of riverboats, but not riverships.

At http://www.columbiarivercruise.com/ , a company called "American West Steamboat Company" says "America's newest and most elegant small cruise ships journey up to 1,000 miles on the Columbia, Snake and Willamette Rivers". That is, a steamboat company offers cruised on ships.
Incidentally, they're not really steamboats; they're diesel-electric-powered paddle-wheelers.
The boat we cruised on, the Empress of the North, is 360 feet long. The Liberty Ships I traveled the world on during World War II were about maybe 450 feet long.
The New Shorter Oxford says a boat is
5. a vessel of any size built for navigation on ariver or other inland body of water.
At http://www.adventurecruises.com/ , we are invited to take a "Round-trip Portland, Oregon aboard a yacht ship".
  

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[nq:1]While listening to a pleasing rendition of "Unforgettable" in a lounge show, I found it interesting to note that "unforgettable" ... [/nq] I also wonder how well "the incredible edible egg" (a melodic TV commercial slogan from ca. 20-25 years ago by the US egg industry) would sound if sung by a person with one of those accents in which "egg" has not the /E/ of "incredible" and "edible" but, rather, the vowel of "vague".

  • [nq:1]While listening to a pleasing rendition of "Unforgettable" in a lounge show, I found it interesting to note that "unforgettable" ...
  • [/nq] I also wonder how well "the incredible edible egg" (a melodic TV commercial slogan from ca.
  • 20-25 years ago by the US egg industry) would sound if sung by a person with one of those accents in which "egg" has not the /E/ of "incredible" and "edible" but, rather, the vowel of "vague".
  • [/nq] I recently overheard a conversation on a bus between a touring British couple and a Chicago fellow with a very loud voice.
  • The Chicago fellow asked them where they were from and the guy answered I swear this is a direct quote "London, England".
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[nq:1]While listening to a pleasing rendition of "Unforgettable" in a lounge show, I found it interesting to note that "unforgettable" ... would seem to hear the song sung with a British accent, where "unforgettable" and "incredible" would not rhyme so well.[/nq]
I also wonder how well "the incredible edible egg" (a melodic TV commercial slogan from ca. 20-25 years ago by the US egg industry)
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He'd probably had several days of ...
'Where ya from?'
'Hendon'
'Where the f*** is that?'
'Just outside London'
London, England?'
... and decided to cut to the chase.

John Dean
Oxford
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[nq:2]At http://www.adventurecruises.com/ , we are invited to take a "Round-trip Portland, Oregon aboard a yacht ship".[/nq]
[nq:1]I recently overheard a conversation on a bus between a touring British couple and a Chicago fellow with a very ... He then clarified that he was from just out
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R F filted:
[nq:1]I recently overheard a conversation on a bus between a touring British couple and a Chicago fellow with a very ... He then clarified that he was from just outside London (I'm not sure if those were the words he used).[/nq]
On an episode of "The Monkees", Davy's uncle came to take him back to England...the other three, in an attempt to keep from losing their friend and mar
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[nq:2]I recently overheard a conversation on a bus between a ... (I'm not sure if those were the words he used).[/nq]
[nq:1]He'd probably had several days of ... 'Where ya from?' 'Hendon' 'Where the f*** is that?' 'Just outside London' London, England?' ... and decided to cut to the chase.[/nq]
My thoughts exactly.
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[nq:1]The New Shorter Oxford says a boat is 5. a vessel of any size built for navigation on a river or other inland body of water.[/nq]
Hmmm.
I once asked my Merchant Navy officer brother the difference between a boat and a ship. His answer: "You can put a boat on a ship."
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[nq:2]I recently overheard a conversation on a bus between a ... (I'm not sure if those were the words he used).[/nq]
[nq:1]Three questions: (1) Were you surprised, taken aback, unbelieving, or what when he said "London, England"? It seems like a normal answer.[/nq]
Well, HBrE+ people have been telling us for a long time that place-name references like "London, England" are a strange Ameri
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[nq:2]The New Shorter Oxford says a boat is 5. ... navigation on a river or other inland body of water.[/nq]
[nq:1]Hmmm. I once asked my Merchant Navy officer brother the difference between a boat and a ship. His answer: "You can put a boat on a ship."[/nq]
True, but incomplete. You can put a boat on a ship, but you can't put a ship on a boat.

David
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[nq:1]It's a curious thing, but I suppose New York accents, regardless of type, are generally delivered in a very quiet, gentle and subdued, though completely honest way.[/nq]
Counter-example: Fran Drescher. And you should hear my wife when she gets really angry (a most infrequent occasion, of course) and reverts to the Bronx speech of her formative years.
[nq:1]Diff'rent strokes. Maybe ba
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[nq:2]Hmmm. I once asked my Merchant Navy officer brother the ... His answer: "You can put a boat on a ship."[/nq]
[nq:1]True, but incomplete. You can put a boat on a ship, but you can't put a ship on a boat.[/nq]
You can also put a ship on a ship. USS Cole, several thousands of tons of warship, was returned to the US for repair aboard a barge-like ship that carried her across the Atlantic

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