red apple but not engaging with them on their own terms ~ but not talking to them (= the opponents of the scientists) in ways that they (= the opponents of the scientists) understand intuitively as part of their own belief system CJ
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red applebut not engaging with them on their own terms~ but not talking to them (= the opponents of the scientists) in ways that they (= the opponents of the scientists) understand intuitively as part of their own belief system