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Norrell, Norrell

Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said that Americans and Germans would pronounce Norrell (referring to "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell") as nor-ELL, while Brits would say NOR-ul. Is this true? I've certainly thought of it as nor-ELL.
Susanna Clarke said she didn't mind how it was said.

(Apologies if this has come up recently. I've just switched computers and all is chaos.)

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[nq:1]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said that Americans and Germans would pronounce Norrell (referring to "Jonathan ... mind how it was said. (Apologies if this has come up recently.

  • [nq:1]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said that Americans and Germans would pronounce Norrell (referring to "Jonathan ...
  • mind how it was said.
  • (Apologies if this has come up recently.
  • )[/nq] Whoever Lopate is, I'm sure he's wrong.
  • I know two UK families with the surname Norrell and they pronounce it nor-ELL.
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[nq:1]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said that Americans and Germans would pronounce Norrell (referring to "Jonathan ... mind how it was said. (Apologies if this has come up recently. I've just switched computers and all is chaos.)[/nq]
Whoever Lopate is, I'm sure he's wrong. I know two UK families with the surname Norrell and they pronounce it nor-ELL.

Laura
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[nq:2]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said ... up recently. I've just switched computers and all is chaos.)[/nq]
[nq:1]Whoever Lopate is, I'm sure he's wrong. I know two UK families with the surname Norrell and they pronounce it nor-ELL.[/nq]
Our tennis commentators are having all kinds of problems with the Russian gals' names. Some of them get the names right, most do not.
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There is a Dutch comedian called Rudi Carrell performing in Germany and his name is definitely pronounced Ca-RELL.
Strangely enough, however we Germans usually misstress the spread sheet application Excel as EKS-ul
"Laura F Spira" (Email Removed) schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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[nq:2]Whoever Lopate is, I'm sure he's wrong. I know two UK families with the surname Norrell and they pronounce it nor-ELL.[/nq]
[nq:1]Our tennis commentators are having all kinds of problems with the Russian gals' names. Some of them get the names ... as that is whatshe accepts in English, but the accent in the last name is on the second syllable. [/nq]
(Laura, have you gone all non-arch
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[nq:1]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said that Americans and Germans would pronounce Norrell (referring to "Jonathan ... Is this true? I've certainly thought of it as nor-ELL. Susanna Clarke said she didn't mind how it was said.[/nq]
These name types are a bit of a grey area on this side of the pond. I'm not sure how I'd pronounce "Norrell", though both Paul Burrell and the Bu
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[nq:1]Strangely enough, however we Germans usually misstress the spread sheet application Excel as EKS-ul[/nq]
No, you're mispronouncing it altogether. It's /dZi:pi:Ef/.

Regards,
Mark Barratt
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Not that I know of. Can you not see my post?
[nq:1]But there's the British complication that native names like Merill etc are "properly" pronounced with a trochaic first-syllable stress. But ... use a Frenchified iambic second-syllable stress; so that in some families the ChapELL pattern is the de facto correct version.[/nq]
Place names can get the Bucket treatment, too. I was familiar wit
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[nq:2]she (Laura, have you gone all non-archived on me? Awful to think of your appearing as a mere attendant quotation.)[/nq]
[nq:1]Not that I know of. Can you not see my post?[/nq]
Only as quoted by Sara.
[nq:1]Place names can get the Bucket treatment, too. I was familiar with BattERsea and ClARm but Daughter talked at the weekend about friends who now live in "Croosh-END" having move
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[nq:2]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said ... up recently. I've just switched computers and all is chaos.)[/nq]
[nq:1]Whoever Lopate is, I'm sure he's wrong. I know two UK families with the surname Norrell and they pronounce it nor-ELL.[/nq]
But I don't think that's the instinctive Brit mode. Sorrell and Dorrell are invariably stressed on the first syllable, I believe. I'm
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[nq:2]Leonard Lopate, on his radio show on WNYC, just said ... Susanna Clarke said she didn't mind how it was said.[/nq]
[nq:1]These name types are a bit of a grey area on this side of the pond. I'mnot sure how I'd ... first syllable, and I think the English tongue tends towards behaving that way with similar names unless told todo otherwise.[/nq]
And is Angela Thirkell Angela THIR-kell or

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