Noon = 12am or pm?

[nq:1]Hello, for some time now I've been trying to determine once and for good whether noon as opposed to midnight ... seems to me to be particularly appropriate for 12 noon. ;-) This may be why you get such different opinions.[/nq]
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan

Most people - all the ones I know, anyway - see noon as 12 PM, and midnight as 12 AM. In truth, however, neither is correct for either time.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology, a US federal agency operating through the Department of Commerce, addresses the issue by saying: "This is a tricky question. The answer is that the terms 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are wrong and should no

I am interested in this also. Given that both uses are wrong, which would (incorrectly) be most commonly accepted as right? Example: A US government employee must fill out a timecard for payroll, and must enter digits only in one field (12:00 but not NOON) and then must circle the AM/PM. The employee works from noon to 1AM. To correctly report thirteen work-hours instead of only one, surely some

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:17:19 -0800, "Mike Slough" (Email Removed) said:
[nq:2]Most people - all the ones I know, anyway - ... and 12 p.m. are wrong and should not be used.[/nq]
[nq:1]I am interested in this also. Given that both uses are wrong, which would (incorrectly) be most commonly accepted as ... (Commerce, Labor, IRS) has defined noon as either AM or PM, especially for data-entry p

[nq:1]Most people - all the ones I know, anyway - see noon as 12 PM, and midnight as 12 AM. ... or 12 p.m. could work as a designation for midnight, but both would be ambiguous as to the date intended."[/nq]
Right. But e.g. 12:30 p.m. is obviously /post/ meridem. That's why 12:00 PM equals to 12:00, while 12:00 AM equals to 0:00. This is also the way how computer operating systems understand

[nq:2]Most people - all the ones I know, anyway - ... 12 AM. In truth, however, neither is correct for either>>(snip)[/nq]
[nq:1](snip) Right. But e.g. 12:30 p.m. is obviously /post/ meridem. That's why[/nq]
To expand on that: One millisecond after "high noon," the time is 12:00:00.001 PM.

So if you are watching the clock the instant it becomes neither AM nor PM, it is PM b

[nq:1]Hello, for some time now I've been trying to determine once and for good whether noon as opposed to midnight ... - many of native English speakers whom i'd asked had different opinions on that. Please confirm me or correct me.[/nq]
Insofar as the 12 when the sun is up is the morning, and 12 when the sun isn't up is at night, intuitively, the majority of people I know say "12am" for midd

[nq:1]sun isn't up is at night, intuitively, the majority of people I know say "12am" for midday and 12pm for midnight.[/nq]
The majority of people, clocks, and computer software I know are the opposite.

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