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Grioom Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
Non-defining
Hello, sir!
What is right answer?
The lady and her bike, (that/which) were at the beach, disappeared.
thanks.
What is right answer?
The lady and her bike, (that/which) were at the beach, disappeared.
thanks.
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You can't use those commas and use that at the same time. , which were at the beach, disappeared. Placing both an animate ( lady ) and an inanimate ( bike ) together causes some awkwardness, but that's another issue not related to the use of that and which .
- You can't use those commas and use that at the same time.
- , which were at the beach, disappeared.
- Placing both an animate ( lady ) and an inanimate ( bike ) together causes some awkwardness, but that's another issue not related to the use of that and which .
- CJ
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You can't use those commas and use that at the same time.
It has to be ..., which were at the beach, disappeared.
Placing both an animate (lady) and an inanimate (bike) together causes some awkwardness, but that's another issue not related to the use of that and which.
CJ
It has to be ..., which were at the beach, disappeared.
Placing both an animate (lady) and an inanimate (bike) together causes some awkwardness, but that's another issue not related to the use of that and which.
CJ
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CalifJimYou can't use those commas and use that at the same time.Why is 'which'
It has to be ..., which were at the beach, disappeared.
Placing both an animate (lady) and an inanimate (bike) together causes some awkwardness, but that's another issue not related to the use of that and which.
CJ
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<>Why is 'which' the correct word to use when it refers to the bike but not the lady?
Nobody said anything about referring to only the bike! The relative clause contains were, so the reference is to both the lady and the bike.
As 'that' can be used for a person ('lady' in this case) and thing ('bike' in this case), it would appear that 'that'
Nobody said anything about referring to only the bike! The relative clause contains were, so the reference is to both the lady and the bike.
As 'that' can be used for a person ('lady' in this case) and thing ('bike' in this case), it would appear that 'that'
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Thanks, CJ
The lady and the bike that were ...
I prefer this version.
The lady and the bike that were ...
I prefer this version.
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But note that from the viewpoint of the question asked, preference doesn't enter into it. You don't really have a choice once you've selected a particular meaning in your mind.
If you wish to make the fact that they were on the beach a parenthetical remark, i.e., if you want to make a non-defining (non-restrictive) clause, you have to have
1. The lady and the bike, wh
If you wish to make the fact that they were on the beach a parenthetical remark, i.e., if you want to make a non-defining (non-restrictive) clause, you have to have
1. The lady and the bike, wh
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1. The lady and the bike, which were at the beach, disappeared.
2. The lady and the bike that were at the beach disappeared.
When I say that I prefer the second sentence, it is because of 'which' in the first sentence. It has nothing to do with the poster's question. My apologies for not explaining my preference for the second sentence earlier.
2. The lady and the bike that were at the beach disappeared.
When I say that I prefer the second sentence, it is because of 'which' in the first sentence. It has nothing to do with the poster's question. My apologies for not explaining my preference for the second sentence earlier.
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When I say that I prefer the second sentence, it is because of 'which' in the first sentence. It has nothing to do with the poster's question.That's what I thought, but I just wanted to verify it so that I didn't give you the wrong impression about what I was saying in previous posts in this thread.
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