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Anonymous Posted 17 years ago
Linguistics Studies

Never ever

"He's never ever wrong."

If you had to give an explanation of that structure, would you look at it stylistically, or grammatically?
  

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I would look at it in a dictionary: Longman Dictionary: never ever (=used to emphasize what you are saying) - I'll never ever forgive him for leaving me. and would take it as an idiom or something, that is, I would use it the way others use it, and it's so because they say so.

  • I would look at it in a dictionary: Longman Dictionary: never ever (=used to emphasize what you are saying) - I'll never ever forgive him for leaving me.
  • and would take it as an idiom or something, that is, I would use it the way others use it, and it's so because they say so.
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I would look at it in a dictionary:

Longman Dictionary:

never ever
(=used to emphasize what you are saying)
- I'll never ever forgive him for leaving me.


... and would take it as an idiom or something, that is, I would use it the way others use it, and it's so because they say so.
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The dictionary doesn't give much, if any, information about style, register or even the grammar of that item, does it?
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AnonymousThe dictionary doesn't give much, if any, information about style, register or even the grammar of that item, does it?
It doesn't give too much information about any other idiom either. Are you going to complain about at least 10,000 other entries? However, the information it gives about "never ever" is enough for me, and I think it's probably enough
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< the information it gives about "never ever" is enough for me, and I think it's probably enough for other learners too.>

Well I'm glad you're such an expert on that item. Please tell those of us, who sometimes need more, where and when should or should we not use never ever.
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AnonymousPlease tell those of us, who sometimes need more, where and when should or should we not use never ever.
1) You don't need more, you are just being overly picky on purpose.

2) Meaning = Emphatic never. Try to copy the patterns you hear. If you feel unsure, don't use it. It's not necessary to understand everything right aw
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<1) You don't need more, you are just being overly picky on purpose.>

It seems you model the abilities and needs of all ESL students on yourself.
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AnonymousIt seems you model the abilities and needs of all ESL students on yourself.

That's what you are doing too, except it's never clear what the foudation of your reasoning is, and often also what the actual reasoning is.

It seems successful fluent learners of any language have focused less on unimportant theoretical details, and more on
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AnonymousIt seems you model the abilities and needs of all ESL students on yourself.


We should remember that Kooyeen is the only ESL student on this thread, Anon.

Doesn't that make his point of view of particular interest?

MrP
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What are you talikng about, MrP?
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It seems successful fluent learners of any language have focused less on unimportant theoretical details,

Really? Is that why most language forums are filled with technical (mainly grammar) questions?

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