Negations

"cairon" (Email Removed) wrote on 25 Nov 2003:
[nq:1]1. I am neither the manufacturer nor the distributor of this product. If I use be + not negation, should ... the distributor... or 3. I am not the manufacturer nor the distributor... to make it mean the same as (1)?[/nq]
#2 and #3 mean the same as #1, IMHO. I don't see any ambiguity in #2 that makes the "nor" in #3 necessary. It's simply

[nq:1]1. I am neither the manufacturer nor the distributor of this product. If I use be + not negation, should ... the distributor... or 3. I am not the manufacturer nor the distributor... to make it mean the same as (1)?[/nq]
I don't know what's correct. What sounds good to me and what I'd use (besides (1)) is "... not the manufacturer or distributor...".

Michael Hamm Since mid-Septe

[nq:1]1. I am neither the manufacturer nor the distributor of this product. If I use be + not negation, should ... the distributor... or 3. I am not the manufacturer nor the distributor... to make it mean the same as (1)?[/nq]
They all mean the same thing. I think you'll keep everybody happy though by choosing either "neither... nor..." or "not... or..."

Adrian

[nq:2]1. I am neither the manufacturer nor the distributor of ... the distributor... to make it mean the same as (1)?[/nq]
[nq:1]They all mean the same thing. I think you'll keep everybody happy though by choosing either "neither... nor..." or "not... or..."[/nq]
Not everybody. I don't care much for the "not ... or ..." version. I am one of those who prefers a "nor" even with the "not". No

"Skitt" (Email Removed) wrote on 26 Nov 2003:
[nq:2]They all mean the same thing. I think you'll keep everybody happy though by choosing either "neither... nor..." or "not... or..."[/nq]
[nq:1]Not everybody. I don't care much for the "not ... or ..." version. I am one of those who prefers a "nor" even with the "not". No chance for ambiguity that way. This has been discussed here before.[/n

[nq:2]Not everybody. I don't care much for the "not ... ... for ambiguity that way. This has been discussed here before.[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't see any ambiguity there. Am I missing something?[/nq]
Yup. But as I said, this has been covered (and caused arguments) here before.
You snipped the MWCD10 quote that specifically illustrates my usage as a proper form.

Skitt (in Hayward, Ca

[nq:1]1. I am neither the manufacturer nor the distributor of this product. If I use be + not negation, should ... the distributor... or 3. I am not the manufacturer nor the distributor... to make it mean the same as (1)?[/nq]
I favor 2, but I see 3 a lot.

Jerry Friedman

[nq:1]1. I am neither the manufacturer nor the distributor of this product. If I use be + not negation, should ... the distributor... or 3. I am not the manufacturer nor the distributor... to make it mean the same as (1)?[/nq]
Cut the Gordian Knot: write "I am not the manufacturer, nor am I the distributor, of ..."
Gary

[nq:2]I don't see any ambiguity there. Am I missing something?[/nq]
[nq:1]Yup. But as I said, this has been covered (and caused arguments) here before. You snipped the MWCD10 quote that specifically illustrates my usage as a proper form.[/nq]
"Normal usage" rather than "a proper form". And I don't see any ambiguity in "not...or" either. Another plot to get us to conform?

Adrian

[nq:2]Yup. But as I said, this has been covered (and ... quote that specifically illustrates my usage as a proper form.[/nq]
[nq:1]"Normal usage" rather than "a proper form". And I don't see any ambiguity in "not...or" either. Another plot to get us to conform?[/nq]
OK, I won't argue the ambiguity point. The one with "nor" is a* proper usage or form, as I illustrated with the now snippe