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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

need to back-shift?

0Hi,02br
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00I think Kooyeen said something like you need to change your tense after verbs like 'thought' since they pertain more to your feelings.02br
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00And I bellieve Mr. M said that the native speakers intuitively back-shift for the sentences like this:02br
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01i00I didn't know you have a sense of duty. 02i02br
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00But for these??02br
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00When I met a friend I haven't seen for a long time:02br
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00Hi, John. Nice to see you. I 01u00didn't know you are married02u00. I am glad you told me you have recently got married. Or Hi, John. Nice to see you. 01u00I didn't know you were married02u00. I am glad you told me you have recently got married.02br
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00Going into the store to buy candies:02br
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00Look, John, I01u00 thought this candy is02u00 on sale. I was here yesterday evening and saw it on sale. Let's go buy the candy somewhere else.02br
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00Or02br
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00Look, John, 01u00I thought this candy was02u00 on sale. I was here yesterday evening and saw it on sale. Let's go buy the candy somewhere else.02br
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00I feel for those two examples, since they are not concern with someone's feelings, but pertain to factual scenarioes like being married and a candy being on sale yesterday and today, the need to back-shift isn't there for both of those situations like here:02br
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00I thought this car is the best one out there.02br
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00I thought buying a house is the best form of investment.02br
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00I thought John is the best-looking dude in the world.02br
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00I thougt Mr. Lee (who is dead) is someone we could consider as a role-model. 0-
  

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0Please see this: 05002br 02br 00With "I thought" do NOT use the present tense. Do NOT use the present tense. 02br 02br 00Say it with me.

— BarbaraPA

  • 0Please see this: 05002br 02br 00With "I thought" do NOT use the present tense.
  • Do NOT use the present tense.
  • 02br 02br 00Say it with me.
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0Please see this: 05002br
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00With "I thought" do NOT use the present tense. Do NOT use the present tense. Do NOT use the present tense.02br
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00Say it with me. After "I thought," do NOT use the present tense.040pid511093
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01cite10Anonymous12cite10I 11u10didn't know you are married12u10.12blockquote
10 Wrong!01blockquote
01cite10Anonymous12cite10 11u10I didn't know you were married12u10. 12blockquote
10 Right!01blockquote
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0Thank you, everyone.02br
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00After all those resounding responses, it would be hard for anyone to go on using a past (whoops, I might have started it again -- that was a slip05000)01u00present02u00 tense after the phrase 'I thought'.02br
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00Got cha! Loud and clear. Thank you. Those are the kind of answers I would like
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0Can I expess my frustration as well? 02br
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00NO! Use the PAST TENSE! Present tense is WRONG!!02br
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00wow... I feel much better now. Saves me a trip to the shrink05002br
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00I recently realized I do make this mistake unconciously...no no subconciously is the right wrod.010id2
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0 «I feel for those two examples, since they are not concern with someone's feelings, but pertain to factual scenarioes like being married and a candy being on sale yesterday and today, the need to back-shift isn't there for both of those situations»02br
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00 I don't think it's too deep. It's OK.02br
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00 Try contemplating the difference between re
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0Ant, Nothing really. It's just that this is the third time in just several days some of us are discussing this topic 02br
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00I guess it's a commonly faced problem.0-
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0Ant, I think you need to reread GG's post. 05002br
01i00After "I thought," do NOT use the simple present tense.02i02br
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00However, you could use the simple present tense in a direct quote:02br
00"The spider is an insect," I thought (to myself).02br
00"He is married," I thought (to myself). 010id5
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