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N-1st? or n-1th?

If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget
or the
n-1th widget
?
The former implies that the text is read "n minus first widget". The latter implies that the text is read "n minus oneth widget".

Also the former sounds better, the second strikes me as more accurate.

Your thoughts?
Joseph
  

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Joseph Turian turpitued: [nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ... the text is read "n minus oneth widget". [/nq] It's a question of personal taste, but I'd always say "n minus oneth".

  • Joseph Turian turpitued: [nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ...
  • the text is read "n minus oneth widget".
  • [/nq] It's a question of personal taste, but I'd always say "n minus oneth".
  • I'd also use parentheses in writing it: (n-1)th.
  • Indeed, those two observations are related.
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Joseph Turian turpitued:
[nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ... the text is read "n minus oneth widget". Also the former sounds better, the second strikes me as more accurate.[/nq]
It's a question of personal taste, but I'd always say "n minus oneth". I'd also use parentheses in writing it: (n-1)th.
Indeed, tho
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[nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ... read "n minus oneth widget". Also the former sounds better, the second strikes me as more accurate. Your thoughts? Joseph[/nq]
At first I thought you were talking about coordinates. Apparently you're talking algebra? Could you not just say "widget n minus one", "the widget at n mi
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[nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ... the text is read "n minus oneth widget". Also the former sounds better, the second strikes me as more accurate.[/nq]
"Penultimate"
Don
Kansas City
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[nq:2]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, ... former sounds better, the second strikes me as more accurate.[/nq]
[nq:1]"Penultimate"[/nq]
For the moment...

dg (domain=ccwebster)
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[nq:2]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, ... better, the second strikes me as moreaccurate. Your thoughts? Joseph[/nq]
[nq:1]At first I thought you were talking about coordinates. Apparentlyyou're talking algebra? Could you not just say "widget n minus ... n minus one widget?" I think "n minuswunth" sounds terrible, as does "n minus thirty-thirdth." "n minusforty-fifthth" is
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[nq:1]At first I thought you were talking about coordinates. Apparentlyyou're talking algebra? Could you not just say "widget n minus ... n minus one widget?" I think "n minuswunth" sounds terrible, as does "n minus thirty-thirdth." "n minusforty-fifthth" is positively lisping.[/nq]
I agree, I read it again and simply cannot stand it. So I figured out how to simplify the notation.
(NB foo
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Yesterday, Joseph Turian (Email Removed) gosled:
[nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this be the n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ? The former implies that the text is read "n minus first widget". The latter implies that the text is read "n minus oneth widget".[/nq]
Although the second seems more correct to me, I can report that I've heard(1) the first more of
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[nq:1]If we were talking about some widget at location n-1, would this bethe n-1st widget or the n-1th widget ? ... is read "n minus oneth widget". Also the former sounds better, the second strikes me as moreaccurate. Your thoughts? Joseph[/nq]
This is a tricky one. I think that I would normally use the latter but it is hard to say it without deliberate thought. I cannot say which I hear most
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[nq:1]A couple of points. Several posters seem to think that the latter is more correct but what if n is ... twenty-first and not twenty-oneth. Also thirty-first, hundred-and-first etc. So maybe the former form is more correct (if that means anything).[/nq]
I remember a program in a textbook once that used the "mod" function to apply an
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[nq:1]=3D?iso-8859-1?B?U2XhbiBPJ0xlYXRobPNiaGFpcg=3D=3D?=3D filted:[/nq]
[nq:2]A couple of points. Several posters seem to think that ... the former form is more correct (if that means anything).[/nq]
[nq:1]I remember a program in a textbook once that used the "mod" functionto apply an ordinal suffix to a number...a bug had its output talking about the"11st" and "12nd" in a series..[/nq]

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