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Little Girl Posted 11 years ago
Grammar

much of something Vs much something

Hi. Would just like to make sure if both are fine. Thank you.

I know too much salt is bad.

I know too much OF salt is bad.
  

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The first is correct; the second is incorrect.

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  • The first is correct; the second is incorrect.
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The first is correct; the second is incorrect.
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Could you please explain why the second one is incorrect? We do hear phrases like 'much of a muchness' and 'too much of a good thing'.
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Technically, and grammatically, it should be "having too much salt (in your food) is bad for you". But conversationally, it is accpetable with out the gerund, which is the subject.

The second one is incorrect because "of" is not needed. The 'of ' in your example is an idiom which is a fixed expression.

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You can read some relevant information on much and other determiners here:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/determiners/determiners.htm
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Little Girl Could you please explain why the second one is incorrect? We do hear phrases like 'much of a muchness' and 'too much of a good thing'.
These are set expressions, but grammatically the difference is that "salt" is an uncountable noun without an article. "too much of" will not work with article-less uncountable nouns (unless there are special idiomat
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AnonymousTechnically, and grammatically, it should be "having too much salt (in your food) is bad for you".
I find it hard to agree with this.
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GPY AnonymousTechnically, and grammatically, it should be "having too much salt (in your food) is bad for you".I find it hard to agree with this.
Why so hard? Too much - is adjectaval which technically can not be used as subject, am I the one being too grammatically correct? However, I also said it is conversationally common. Didn't I ?
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AnonymousWhy so hard? Too much - is adjectaval which technically can not be used as subject, am I the one being too grammatically correct?
"too much" modifies "salt". It is not being used as a subject.

I know (that) salt is bad (for you).
I know (that) too much salt is bad (for you).
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Anonymousthat's how I see it.
Then I'm afraid you are wrong.
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GPY Anonymousthat's how I see it.Then I'm afraid you are wrong.
I am a little disappointed. It is very easy to point to someone and say he is wrong. Would you be willing to agree that It is a grammatically known fact that adjectival phrases only describe nouns.They can't modify nouns, and vesides "too much" is not adverbial by nature. We all know, too sweet,
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