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Solitario1 Posted 19 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation

Moving stress

Please I need help with this:

You use moving stress with some nationalities (ending in ese) and also with numbers (_teen, twenty-two)

Examples:

He's a Portugese writer.

We have fourteen children.

Am I right?

________________ . ________________

What about these examples? Do they have moving stress?

They are European capital cities.

It's an afternoon party.

It's a seventeenth century house.
  

Top answer

My opinions: He's a Por tugese writer. We have four teen children. Am I right?

  • My opinions: He's a Por tugese writer.
  • We have four teen children.
  • Am I right?
  • -- Yes, but it is not universally done.
  • It is not a rule, it is the physics of utterance production.
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My opinions:


He's a Portugese writer.

We have fourteen children.

Am I right? -- Yes, but it is not universally done. It is not a rule, it is the physics of utterance production.

What about these examples? Do they have moving stress?

They are European capital cities. -- A bit, but not so strong-- the second adjectiv
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Uh-oh! Uh-ooooh!

I never heard of this feature. Are you guys talking about stress that changes within a word?

19 = nineteen
99 = ninety-nine
1999 = nineteen ninety-nine<-- I usually hear years pronounced this way, and this is the way I pronounce them too.

I thought that was a kind of exception.
Could you guys tell me if ther
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I never heard of this feature.
Me neither. The stress is sometimes somewhere and then, in certain situations, it's somewhere else?

I'm sure someone will come by and rescue us eventually.

CJ
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You must have met this before, Jim. Perhaps not as 'moving stress' (but nothing else comes to mind-- I remember the proposition only vaguely myself. It's not 'stress shift'-- that's what happens between the noun and verb for e.g. protest).

The idea is that word stress varies in context-- for what range of cases, I do not know, but the 'teens' are a memorable example:

In
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Phew, Jim, I was afraid I had found another weird feature and... I was going to lose a lot of time trying to understand it, LOL. Emotion: smile
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For many speakers, the isolated afterNOON becomes, in context, AFternoon PARty.

Both 'moving stress' and 'changing word shapes' are certainly existing phenomena-- and exist probably in all languages, if one is observant.
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Thanks, Mr. M.!

I don't think I often change the stressed syllable in my own speech. Maybe for fourteen and the like. But I think that I always say Portuguese and European and afternoon. Maybe that's my problem in imagining other variants.

CJ
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I never heard of this feature.
I think this is what Michael Swan calls 'variable stress' in his Practical English Usage.
Japanese has the stress on the last syllable when the word is spoken alone: JapanESE; but when we say Japanese cooking, the stress moves to the first syllable: JApanese COOking.
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Thanks.
Hmm, this feature does exist then...
MM, can you think of any other examples or cases where this happens? I really never heard of this, although I knew about the stress in numbers like "fourteen".
Is it something that happens pretty fequently or many people do? Jim doesn't seem to recognize this feature either, so I wonder if it is worth learning about this or if I can safely
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What should I do?
Fret about it for several weeks! Emotion: smile And then do a little more research on it, and report

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