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The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. What exactly does it mean please?

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[nq:1]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. [/nq] The way I first heard it in the late '50s-early '60s it was "***, Mom, the Flag and Apple Pie," those being the values that All Good Ammurikuns shared in common with everyone cept them gol-durned n**-lovin Communist Outside Agitators. ) It's an excellent example of a "code phrase" or "buzz phrase," which when said attempts to produce an emotional reaction that tends to cancel out rational thinking and discourse.

  • [nq:1]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days.
  • [/nq] The way I first heard it in the late '50s-early '60s it was "***, Mom, the Flag and Apple Pie," those being the values that All Good Ammurikuns shared in common with everyone cept them gol-durned n**-lovin Communist Outside Agitators.
  • ) It's an excellent example of a "code phrase" or "buzz phrase," which when said attempts to produce an emotional reaction that tends to cancel out rational thinking and discourse.
  • It also shows how subjective "values" are when discussed in a conversation involving Us Versus Them; the meaningful parts of the conversation are conveyed with raised eyebrows, elbows in the ribs, etc.
  • " Gary G.
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[nq:1]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. What exactly does it mean please?[/nq]
The way I first heard it in the late '50s-early '60s it was "***, Mom, the Flag and Apple Pie," those being the values that All Good Ammurikuns shared in common with everyone cept them gol-durned n**-lovin Communist Outside Agitators. (The latter referring to civil rights workers and anti-Vietnam
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[nq:1]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. What exactly does it mean please?[/nq]
Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If one is all for motherhood and apple pie, one respects the wholesome aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.

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[nq:1]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. What exactly does it mean please?[/nq]
Shibboleths of USAnity. Cisatlantean ***, King and Country.

john
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[nq:2]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. What exactly does it mean please?[/nq]
[nq:1]Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If one is all for motherhood and apple pie, one respects the wholesome aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.[/nq]
Seriously by Midwesterners, ironically by most of the rest. (I am not from Wisco
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[nq:1]Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If one is all for motherhood and apple pie, one respects the wholesome aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.[/nq]
In BrE it's rare to hear it used non-ironically. Someone's political platform might be described as "motherhood and apple pie", meaning something bland that it's hard to disagree with
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[nq:2]Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If ... aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.[/nq]
[nq:1]In BrE it's rare to hear it used non-ironically. Someone's political platform might be described as "motherhood and apple pie", meaning something bland that it's hard to disagree with, and therefore fairly meaningless.[/nq]
Here, too. Th
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[nq:2]In BrE it's rare to hear it used non-ironically. Someone's ... that it's hard to disagree with, and therefore fairly meaningless.[/nq]
[nq:1]Here, too. That's why I added "or ironically". Almost anything can be said ironically, but when it's commonly used ironically it should be so stated.[/nq]
I have Aussie friends who sometimes kid me aboout
"Mum and apple pie" (I'm from
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[nq:2]The above phrase is becoming very popular these days. What exactly does it mean please?[/nq]
[nq:1]Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If one is all for motherhood and apple pie, one respects the wholesome aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.[/nq]
And Rap Brown once famously remarked that "violence is as American as cherry pie
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John Dean typed thus:
[nq:2]Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If ... aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.[/nq]
[nq:1]And Rap Brown once famously remarked that "violence is as American as cherry pie." Though many people believe he said 'apple pie'[/nq]
Apple pie is as American as cherry pie? It's a bit obvious.

David
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[nq:1]Motherhood and apple pie, in American usage, typify wholesomeness. If one is all for motherhood and apple pie, one respects the wholesome aspects of life. It can be said seriously or ironically.[/nq]
I was watching Paul Prudhomme on a cooking show this morning, and he suggested putting chili powder into apple pie. Someone try it and tell me how it tastes.

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