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Kooyeen Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

more skilled moderators

Hi
I already asked about this, but apparently I didn't understand very well. Sorry...

Moderators are not that good here. I think we need moderators that are more skilled.

The above sentence is ok. What would native speakers naturally say to convey the same meaning?

Moderators are not that good here. I think we need more skilled moderators.
Moderators are not that good here. I think we need moderators more skilled.
Other...

Consider those sentences as spoken sentences, not written, so stress and intonation can be taken into account.
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You can do a lot with intonation to make sure your sentence is clear, Kooyeen. Of course, one way to make sure that people don't understand " additional skilled moderators " rather than moderators who are "more skilled" ( skilleder ? ) is to say or write it just that way: " moderators who are more skilled".

  • You can do a lot with intonation to make sure your sentence is clear, Kooyeen.
  • Of course, one way to make sure that people don't understand " additional skilled moderators " rather than moderators who are "more skilled" ( skilleder ?
  • ) is to say or write it just that way: " moderators who are more skilled".
  • In spoken English, you might hear a definite separation or pause between 'more' and 'skilled moderators', along with some emphasis on 'more': We need more ...
  • skilled moderators.
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You can do a lot with intonation to make sure your sentence is clear, Kooyeen.

Of course, one way to make sure that people don't understand "additional skilled moderators" rather than moderators who are "more skilled" (skilleder?
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Moderators are not that good here. I think we need moderators with better skills.
Moderators are not that good here. I think we need experienced moderators with skills.

Moderators are not that good here. I think we need more experienced and sk
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The moderators here aren't so good; I think we need more skilled ones.
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Thanks, thanks, thanks.

No one commented on my sentences though... Let's say I want to find a natural alternative way to say (and not write) this:

Moderators are not that good here. I think we need moderators that are more skilled.

Would these ones be among the possible natural ways?
Moderators are not that good here. I think we need
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Hi Koyeen,

I think your sentences are a bit long-winded to be considered everyday informal speach which is why I posted the response above.
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"New mods. Good mods. That's what we need."

MrP
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Thank you again.

But I still have the same doubts as before... I'll try to ask in a more general way then:

I don't know where to place the part of a comparative, do I put it before or after the noun? Those parts might be something like "even more skilled", "much rarer", "better", etc.

It's a much rarer achievement.
It's an achievement much rarer.
It's a much rar
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Hi Kooyeen

Where I wrote OK, the sentence sounds normal/natural to me. Where I commented, I wrote what I think is a possible usage/interpretation:

It's a much rarer achievement.
-- OK
It's an achievement much rarer. -- It's rarer by one achievement. (i.e. one achievement less) -OR- ellipsis
It's a much rarer achievement than the other. -- OK
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Thank you Amy.

So, generally speaking, it seems I have to put the modifying part before the noun, but I can also put it after if the modifying part is complete (the comparison part is complete, with "than")

It is an even stupider idea. YES
It is an even stupider idea than mine. YES
It is an idea even stupider than mine. YES, modifying part after the noun

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