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Meaning of two words.
I had a conversation with some english people about two words. (French is my primary tongue, so, sorry for the mistake I will write in this thread)
The two words are "guess" (the noun) and "hypothesis" (also the noun). People believe it's the same thing, but I do not. I think the popular meanings (non academical) are close, but there is a big difference.
According to differents dictionary I red, "Hypothesis" is a beginning of a reasonement based on fact/basement/undenyable evidence/ knowledge etc...
Plato was one of the first philosophers who worked on hypothesis, then the other philosopher did the same. Adapting with their own knowledge. Until now, which most philosopher consider (ex : Charles Sanders Peirce's abduction, deduction and induction) that hypothesis is a supposition based on facts.
Now, can we consider that a guess is a hypothesis ? Can we consider feeling and intuitions as hypothesis too ? If philosophers studied on hypothesis, why did they never used the word guess ? Isn't the guess is limited ?
Personally, for me, a guess is just an intuition made up by our minds which are based on the knowledges in our own brain. (wich we can't tell are facts)
This is my way of reasonning.
Hypothesis : Action >> Looking for facts >> Use my own knowledge >> Solve the matter (conclusion)
Guess : Action >> Intuition >> Use my own knowledge > Solve the matter (conclusion)
In both of them, we arrive to the conclusion. The conclusion can be false of course, that's not the matter. What we care about, is the way of thinking.
I would like to know your opinion about it.
-- Louison "No, no: I never guess. It is a shocking habit,---destructive to the logical faculty." S.Holmes
The two words are "guess" (the noun) and "hypothesis" (also the noun). People believe it's the same thing, but I do not. I think the popular meanings (non academical) are close, but there is a big difference.
According to differents dictionary I red, "Hypothesis" is a beginning of a reasonement based on fact/basement/undenyable evidence/ knowledge etc...
Plato was one of the first philosophers who worked on hypothesis, then the other philosopher did the same. Adapting with their own knowledge. Until now, which most philosopher consider (ex : Charles Sanders Peirce's abduction, deduction and induction) that hypothesis is a supposition based on facts.
Now, can we consider that a guess is a hypothesis ? Can we consider feeling and intuitions as hypothesis too ? If philosophers studied on hypothesis, why did they never used the word guess ? Isn't the guess is limited ?
Personally, for me, a guess is just an intuition made up by our minds which are based on the knowledges in our own brain. (wich we can't tell are facts)
This is my way of reasonning.
Hypothesis : Action >> Looking for facts >> Use my own knowledge >> Solve the matter (conclusion)
Guess : Action >> Intuition >> Use my own knowledge > Solve the matter (conclusion)
In both of them, we arrive to the conclusion. The conclusion can be false of course, that's not the matter. What we care about, is the way of thinking.
I would like to know your opinion about it.
-- Louison "No, no: I never guess. It is a shocking habit,---destructive to the logical faculty." S.Holmes
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[nq:1]I had a conversation with some english people about two words. (French is my primary tongue, so, sorry for the ... [/nq] In fact I would say that the meaning of "hypothesis" is probably more closely related to "theory" than to "guess".
- [nq:1]I had a conversation with some english people about two words.
- (French is my primary tongue, so, sorry for the ...
- [/nq] In fact I would say that the meaning of "hypothesis" is probably more closely related to "theory" than to "guess".
- Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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[nq:1]I had a conversation with some english people about two words. (French is my primary tongue, so, sorry for the ... words, but for me a hypothesis is a technical philosophical formal term I would rarely use in informal, non-academic speech.[/nq]
In fact I would say that the meaning of "hypothesis" is probably more closely related to "theory" than to "guess".
Regards, Einde O'Cal
In fact I would say that the meaning of "hypothesis" is probably more closely related to "theory" than to "guess".
Regards, Einde O'Cal
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[nq:1]Your correct to say that there is a similarity between the popular understanding of the two words, but for me a hypothesis is a technical philosophical formal term I would rarely use in informal, non-academic speech.[/nq]
I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're".
I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're".
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[nq:2]Your correct to say that there is a similarity between ... formal term I would rarely use in informal, non-academic speech.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're".[/nq]
Unless, of course, his "Your correct" is the equivalent of others' "my bad". :-)
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[nq:1]I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're".[/nq]
Unless, of course, his "Your correct" is the equivalent of others' "my bad". :-)
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[nq:2]Your correct to say that there is a similarity between ... formal term I would rarely use in informal, non-academic speech.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're". No problem - ... I shouldn't try to answer questions like that in the middle of the night when I should be asleep. ;-)[/nq]
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
[nq:1]I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're". No problem - ... I shouldn't try to answer questions like that in the middle of the night when I should be asleep. ;-)[/nq]
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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[nq:2] I'm sure that Einde won't mind my gently pointing out that his "Your" ought to be "You're".[/nq]
[nq:1]No problem - it just goes to show again that I shouldn't try to answer questions like that in the middle of the night when I should be asleep. ;-)[/nq]
You mean "a sleep"? ;-)
Michael
[nq:1]No problem - it just goes to show again that I shouldn't try to answer questions like that in the middle of the night when I should be asleep. ;-)[/nq]
You mean "a sleep"? ;-)
Michael
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"Einde O'Callaghan"
[nq:1]Your correct to say that there is a similarity between the popular understanding of the two words, but for me a hypothesis is a technical philosophical formal term I would rarely use in informal, non-academic speech.[/nq]
Heh, ok.
[nq:1]In fact I would say that the meaning of "hypothesis" is probably more closely related to "theory" than to "guess". Regards,
[nq:1]Your correct to say that there is a similarity between the popular understanding of the two words, but for me a hypothesis is a technical philosophical formal term I would rarely use in informal, non-academic speech.[/nq]
Heh, ok.
[nq:1]In fact I would say that the meaning of "hypothesis" is probably more closely related to "theory" than to "guess". Regards,
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[nq:1]I had a conversation with some english people about two words. (French ismy primary tongue, so, sorry for the mistake ... thing, but I do not. I think the popular meanings (non academical) are close, but there is a big difference.[/nq]
I guess like all semantics there is a whole big grey area between people. But generally, "a hypothesis" is a special kind of guess. It's a scienti
I guess like all semantics there is a whole big grey area between people. But generally, "a hypothesis" is a special kind of guess. It's a scienti
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"mustermann"
[nq:1]I guess like all semantics there is a whole big grey area between people. But generally, "a hypothesis" is a ... driver would often "hypothesise" about the weather. So, fancy words, for fancy people in fancy situations... Hope that helps! :-)[/nq]
It helps a lot. Thank you very much. Even if I say I never guess. =) I prefer to say that I deduct, or I suppose. Guess is,
[nq:1]I guess like all semantics there is a whole big grey area between people. But generally, "a hypothesis" is a ... driver would often "hypothesise" about the weather. So, fancy words, for fancy people in fancy situations... Hope that helps! :-)[/nq]
It helps a lot. Thank you very much. Even if I say I never guess. =) I prefer to say that I deduct, or I suppose. Guess is,
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[nq:1]"mustermann"[/nq]
[nq:2]I guess like all semantics there is a whole big ... but philosophically, both really are sorts of guesses, although the[/nq]
[nq:1]'hypothesis'[/nq]
[nq:2]( literally: not a thesis level) is supposed to sound ... people" who are basing their guesses on already acquired knowledge...[/nq]
[nq:1]which[/nq]
[nq:2]strangely also fits the description of
[nq:2]I guess like all semantics there is a whole big ... but philosophically, both really are sorts of guesses, although the[/nq]
[nq:1]'hypothesis'[/nq]
[nq:2]( literally: not a thesis level) is supposed to sound ... people" who are basing their guesses on already acquired knowledge...[/nq]
[nq:1]which[/nq]
[nq:2]strangely also fits the description of
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In article (Email Removed) "SeiYaChaN" writes:
[nq:1]I prefer to say that I deduct, or I suppose. Guess is, well. Something I let to the fortune tellers. :-D[/nq]
ITYM "deduce". Whilst that act does result in making a deduction, with your intended meaning, the verb "deduct" has the different meaning of "subtract".
-- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} (Email Removed) "We can no longer stand
[nq:1]I prefer to say that I deduct, or I suppose. Guess is, well. Something I let to the fortune tellers. :-D[/nq]
ITYM "deduce". Whilst that act does result in making a deduction, with your intended meaning, the verb "deduct" has the different meaning of "subtract".
-- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} (Email Removed) "We can no longer stand
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