meaning of sentences

0 I think they are correct and have the same meaning. 0-

0 I would say,02br
001. All the pupils are absent. = There is no pupil (in the class).02br
002. All the pupils are not present. = Some of the pupils are absent, while some of them are present.0-

0I agree.0-

0 01blockquote

01cite10Yoong Liat12cite101. All the pupils are 11b10absent.12b12br
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102. All the pupils are 11b10not present.12b12br
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11b10Is sentence 2 correct and has the same meaning as sentence 1?12b12br
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10Hi

0 Milky agrees with 'Bird of Paradise'. 0-

0I disagree. If I meant some of the pupils were present and some were absent, I would only say:02br
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00Not all (of) the pupils are present.02br
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00To me, 'all the pupils are not present' means they are all not here. 0-

0If we have this level of disagreement, then we have ambiguity that needs to be corrected.02br
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00If someone said "We can't start the class yet! All the pupils aren't present," then in that context, you would infer that some are there, but some are still missing.02br
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00Even without this context, that would actually be my first interpretation.02

0You say tomato...02br
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00If someone said that, I'd understand what they meant. If 01i00I 02i00said it, I'd say "We can't start the class yet! Not all of the pupils are present!". But maybe it's just me. A pernicketty old mare.02br
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00...and I say tomato. 0-

0 A pernicketty old mare? Which one dictionary should i consult?0-

0No, LRR, I am on your side 050051052010id411id212id2