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Kooyeen Posted 18 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation

Long instead of short vowels

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00I learned (and recognized) that in certain words (stressed syllables, in reality), the vowel is longer and on two steps of intonation when the syllable coda is voiced, otherwise it's short. In other words, I am just talking about the difference you can hear between 01i01b00GOT02b02i00 and 01i01b00GOD02b02i00, for example. The second, "god", ends in a voiced consonant, and the AW vowel is longer, on two steps.02br
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00Now, I've always thought that "rule" had several exceptions. In fact, it seems to me I often hear long vowels when short vowels are expected. I tend to use long vowels in "this" and sometimes in "but", when followed by a pause, and that make it sound almost like "bud"... "I know I was wrong, bud... I think you were wrong too".02br
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00Now, what do you think about long vowels instead of short ones, when the syllable ends in an unvoiced sound? Here is an example, where01i01b00 COP02b02i00 is pronounced with a long vowel, or at least so it seems to me. If I didn't hear the final P clearly, I would probably take it to be 01i01b00COB02b02i00. No need to watch all the video... The first sentence she says is the example:02br
01i01b00Hi! Today we're gonna be talking about the difference between 02b02i01span02span01span02span01i01b01span00COP02span02b02i01b00 and CUP...02b02br
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0Hi Kooyeen, 02br 02br 00You're way more into phonics than I am, though as a choral conductor I'm always screeming at singers to sustain the vowel portions of the words, since the consonants (generally) cannot be sung. I'm not really going to address your question. 0-

  • 0Hi Kooyeen, 02br 02br 00You're way more into phonics than I am, though as a choral conductor I'm always screeming at singers to sustain the vowel portions of the words, since the consonants (generally) cannot be sung.
  • I'm not really going to address your question.
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0Hi Kooyeen, 02br
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00You're way more into phonics than I am, though as a choral conductor I'm always screeming at singers to sustain the vowel portions of the words, since the consonants (generally) cannot be sung. I'm not really going to address your question. I just wanted to caution that "long vowels" to a native speaker, or anyone who's been through "native" gramma
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0 Hi,02br
00there are several different ways to classify vowels (also tense vs lax, for example). What I call vowel length is what is considered in linguistics, I think. It's the difference you hear in General American English between the vowel in GOT and the vowel in ***, which is the same but in "***" it is longer, not clipped or anything.02br
00Now, I think that happen
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0Hi Kooyee02br
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00All depends on what variety of English you want to speak. The vowels in cup and cop, for example, are pronounced quite differently in Australia and the UK.02br
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0 Hi,02br
00yes, I am talking about American English. And welcome to the forum. We don't have many Australians here... hmm, maybe you are the only one! So double welcome. 05002br
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0And of course, whoever has any idea or opinion is still welcome! 050010id1

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