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In the UK and many Commonwealth countries the following system of degree classication is used:

First-class Honours (1st)
Second-class Honours, upper division (2:1)
Second-class Honours, lower division (2:2)
Third-class Honours (3rd)
Ordinary-Degree (Pass)

In the US and Canada the following system is used ("cum laude" being the lowest on the distinction scale):

cum laude
magna cum laude
summa cum laude

Is there also 'simple pass' or 'ordinary-degree' classication in North American system? Please let me know.

Mister Micawber · Accepted Answer

No, just the degree itself, e.g. 'Bachelor of Arts'.

Jackson6612 · Answer

Thank you, Mr Micawber.

Philip · Answer

Jackson6612Is there also 'simple pass' or 'ordinary-degree' classication in North American system? Please let me know.

Unless one of the laude designations is shown, I think there is nothing other than just BS, BA, etc. However, I have heard the term "with honors", but that's just an English version of the laude brothers.

Jackson6612 · Answer

Philipbut that's just an English version of the laude brothers.

Thanks, Philip. They could be sisters.

Clive · Answer

Hi,

I know that the University of Toronto stopped granting 'ordinary degrees' some years ago.

Clive

Jackson6612 · Answer

CliveHi,I know that the University of Toronto stopped granting 'ordinary degrees' some years ago.Clive

Hi Clive

I don't think this is a good move. Let them have the degrees.

Clive · Answer

Hi,

I believe it was because most undergraduates no longer wanted such a degree.

These details are lifted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor's_degree#Canada

Clive

Canada

Education in Canada is governed independently by each province or territory, so there can be many differences between provinces when it comes to granting of degrees. The western provinces tended to follow American models, while the province of Ontario tended to be a leader in education, with many other provinces adopting its model. Depending on the province, a bachelor's degree takes either four or three years to complete. Going back in history, a three-year degree was also called a pass degree or general degree, and a four-year degree was called an honours degree. In provinces that grant three-year bachelor's degrees, a student may choose to complete an additional year of studies to obtain a four-year honours degree.

Most Canadian universities no longer offer three-year pass degrees, and grant four-year degrees exclusively. As such, the term "honours degree" has fallen somewhat into disuse in certain parts of the country.^{[/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed]} In general, obtaining an honours bachelor's degree requires completion of a number of credits, completion of one or more majors or a specialist program, and maintaining a certain grade point average.

The honours bachelor's degree should not be confused with a bachelor's degree with honours, which is an academic distinction awarded to students who achieve an honours bachelor's degree with a sufficiently high overall average, and who typically fulfill a short thesis requirement.

An honours bachelor's degree is generally a prerequisite for admission into graduate studies in Canada.

Jackson6612 · Answer

CliveI believe it was because most undergraduates no longer wanted such a degree.

Hi

Even if some of them, let's say majority, didn't want to have such a degree, it isn't right to deprive the rest. But perhaps it was then expensive to carry out such a program for the universities.

But I think we are talking in different terms here. In many countries they have two kinds of degrees: simple pass or ordinary degree and honors degree. Here "honors" doesn't refer to the distiniction rather it tells that the student has completed more credit hours and perhaps submitted dissertation as compared to simple ordinary degree which takes less time, usually two years.

Best regards
Jackson

Clive · Answer

Hi,

Yes, I understand the distinction between an Honours degree, and an ordinary one (ie one that is not Honours.

I believe U of T just offers Honours degrees.

Clive

Jackson6612 · Answer

CliveHi,Yes, I understand the distinction between an Honours degree, and an ordinary one (ie one that is not Honours.I believe U of T just offers Honours degrees.Clive

No, I didn't mean to say that you didn't understand the difference. I was thinking that perhaps you misunderstood my poorly written post.

From your post:

The honours bachelor's degree should not be confused with a bachelor's degree with honours, which is an academic distinction awarded to students who achieve an honours bachelor's degree with a sufficiently high overall average, and who typically fulfill a short thesis requirement.

Regards
Jackson

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